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re: Trout or Harper
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:01 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:01 pm to WestCoastAg
I'm not wrong. He is nowhere near Trout.
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:01 pm to cheesesteak501
quote:interesting that you chose .275, when he hit .270, .274, and .273 his first 3 years.
I got blasted for saying Harper was overrated last year. In 5 seasons he's hit over .275 once
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:04 pm to OneMoreTime
What do you want me to say?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:06 pm to cheesesteak501
Batting average by itself tells nothing about how valuable a player is. Joey Gallo has been the most valuable Ranger to date and he is hitting .200.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:06 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
i mean harper is pretty much having a slightly poorer mans bonds type season right now with his power and ability to get on base
And still it is basically a wash b/w them. Harper at his absolute peak is maybe marginally better.
I don't think there is really any question that Mike Trout is the best baseball player on the planet and I think Harper is absolutely fantastic. But Trout is Mickey Mantle.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:07 pm to cheesesteak501
quote:Be honest with yourself and don't choose arbitrary numbers to make your argument look better.
What do you want me to say?
And also learn about other stats besides batting average.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:13 pm to Speedy G
quote:fwiw harper right now is worth about half a win more. so its close, but not super close
And still it is basically a wash b/w them
quote:and harper is a slightly poorer mans barry bonds
But Trout is Mickey Mantle
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:16 pm to cheesesteak501
quote:Right now probably isn't the best time to toot your horn about that opinion.
I got blasted for saying Harper was overrated last year.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:22 pm to OneMoreTime
quote:
Be honest with yourself and don't choose arbitrary numbers to make your argument look better.
And also learn about other stats besides batting average
What stats should I use?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:31 pm to cheesesteak501
he's on pace for 48 HR 138 RBI 176 R and is getting on base 50% of the time he steps to the plate.
he played hurt most of last year. It has become clear that 2015 is who Harper is when fully healthy.
he played hurt most of last year. It has become clear that 2015 is who Harper is when fully healthy.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:31 pm to cheesesteak501
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What stats should I use?
wRC+ is the best single statistic to judge hitting performance.
What is wRC+?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:41 pm to TheXman
Trout. He is consistently better than Harper offensively, defensively, and as a base runner. Harper is better in spurts but that's it.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:46 pm to Lester Earl
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he's on pace for 48 HR 138 RBI 176 R and is getting on base 50% of the time he steps to the plate.
he played hurt most of last year. It has become clear that 2015 is who Harper is when fully hea
We'll see. Until he has consistent MVP caliber seasons like Trout I'll shut up. Until then He has had 3 above average seasons, 1 shite season and one great season.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:47 pm to cheesesteak501
quote:he is currently in his 2nd of these over the past three years
Until he has consistent MVP caliber seasons like Trout I'll shut up.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:48 pm to WestCoastAg
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he is currently in his 2nd of these over the past three years
Its early May. You seem like you really wanna suck Bryce off though.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:49 pm to cheesesteak501
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:52 pm to WestCoastAg
please dont put brice harper and barry bonds in the same sentence. he will never ever play like bonds.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 2:54 pm to Hook Em Horns
quote:what hes doing right now is exacty what bonds was doing before he went nuts on the roids
he will never ever play like bonds.
walking more than he strikeouts, having an ISO above 340, getting on base virtually 50% of the time, running a wRC+ over 200...remind you of someone?
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 6:00 pm to WestCoastAg
Harper BABIP
2012-.310, 2013-.306, 2014-.352, 2015-.369, 2016-.264, 2017.416
Trout BABIP
2012-.383, 2013-.376, 2014-.349, 2015-,344, 2016-.371, 2017-.388
Harper is worth 0.4 more WAR through 31 games while having a very unsustainable BABIP, while Trout is just doing what he does every year for the past six.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 6:28 pm to WestCoastAg
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