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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:42 am to tigerskin
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:42 am to tigerskin
quote:
Not really. The idea that Dez Bryant would catch a ball and then not reach for the goalline is funny itself.
The way the rules are written, its like the two clauses cover parallel possibilities. By definition, a football move cannot occur when a player is "going to the ground while making a catch."
Clearly, that is something that needs to be revised, considering that it certainly appears that Dez made (a couple) moves while falling to the ground.
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:44 am to Salmon
quote:This has happened to me before. I hit the ground before I could blink. If I wouldn't have been pushed so fricking hard(dammit
your standing still, someone comes up to and shoves you in the back at full speed
), I would have tried to keep myself up by doing the EXACT same thing Bryant did. 
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:44 am to TxTiger82
It is not a jumping in the air and falling to the ground play. Watch it in slow motion
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:45 am to DelU249
YES
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:46 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
I would have tried to keep myself up by doing the EXACT same thing Bryant did.
...but those first couple steps are not "conscious"
they are simply a reaction
you are not in control of your body
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:47 am to tigerskin
quote:
It is not a jumping in the air and falling to the ground play. Watch it in slow motion
That's exactly what you shouldn't do. Dez was falling the entire time, for sure. He never regained his balance and he was going to the ground throughout the process of the play.
I believe that in the process of falling he was able to cut back outside of the defender (who was also falling), take one more step, and dive for the endzone. This is, in and of itself, pretty incredible.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:48 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
By rule it was NOT a catch
FIFY
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:49 am to TxTiger82
I think the most important question here is:
How the hell did Oklahoma State steal Dez from LSU again? God damn it he must have been on the T. Boone Pickens plan.
How the hell did Oklahoma State steal Dez from LSU again? God damn it he must have been on the T. Boone Pickens plan.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:49 am to TxTiger82
quote:
I believe that in the process of falling he was able to cut back outside of the defender (who was also falling), take one more step, and dive for the endzone. This is, in and of itself, pretty incredible.
I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't see how people are seeing this
he was simply falling forward IMO
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:50 am to Salmon
If Dez was in control why didn't he just take a couple extra steps and run through the endzone? Seems pretty logical
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:52 am to TxTiger82
Will agree to disagree but that is a rational response. 
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:55 am to Tigerstudent08
quote:
If Dez was in control why didn't he just take a couple extra steps and run through the endzone? Seems pretty logical
He was obviously tripped as you can see from this angle.
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:55 am to Salmon
quote:
I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't see how people are seeing this
I think he lands inside the defender and ends up outside the defender. That could have been happenstance based on the defender's trajectory, but it looks like a move. He leapt over the defender's legs.
Either way, it is a moot point based on the rule.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 9:55 am to NawlinsTiger9
quote:
looked like he was just tumbling to the ground the entire time.
Sounds like you are describing Shields.
Dez was much more in control and turning back outside until his right leg around the knee catches Shields trailing leg which was extended back as Shields was falling forward and also trying to turn body to outside to where Dez had turned.
Dez tripping over that leg was main cause of him going down (or at least before he could do that quick hop to get both feet to other side of defender and then launch with both legs like I have seen him do), but that was after 2nd foot down and a turn back across to the outside of the defender falling in front of him and towards front corner of endzone. Going down He also still gets a slight push with left foot and along with putting right hand down (now with new angle leading more with right shoulder instead of left when ball caught) as he lands he tries to pivot left side forward towards goal line.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 10:22 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:01 am to dallastigers
Looking at the other angle you may be right. Maybe he wasn't falling the entire time.
He may have planted both feet and cut back outside in the process, only to be tripped up by the falling defender. If that's the case, then it was a catch.
He may have planted both feet and cut back outside in the process, only to be tripped up by the falling defender. If that's the case, then it was a catch.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 10:02 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:05 am to dallastigers
quote:
Dez tripping over that leg was main cause of him going down, but that was after 2nd foot down and a turn back across to the outside of the defender falling in front of him and towards front corner of endzone. Going down He also still gets a slight push with left foot and along with putting right hand down (now with new angle leading more with right shoulder instead of left when ball caught) as he lands he tries to pivot left side forward towards goal line.
he was falling over the defender
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:08 am to NorthGAVol
quote:Holy shite. If Shields isn't there Dez strolls in for the TD.
He was obviously tripped as you can see from this angle.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:10 am to ReauxlTide222
that angle makes it even more obvious that it wasn't a catch 
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:11 am to Salmon
quote:Idk man. That angle looks like he simply trips over Shields. I have little to no doubt that Dez landed on his feet in stride and Shields tripped him.
he was falling over the defender
Posted on 1/12/15 at 10:12 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
That angle looks like he simply trips over Shields.
I mean...yeah
he was still falling over the defender
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