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Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Yeah that's just a bunch of bullshite. Hell, I couldn't even tell you the last JUCO Player we took in for the simple fact that most of them don't stand a chance. Just as we couldn't go after Calhoun of OU or Bryant of Okie Lite for the simple fact that we'd never be able to get them in and keep them in. And the SEC of all conferences shouldn't be passing judgment on anyone else in this area.
When it comes to athletics, it doesn't matter. Texas will let in a border line tard if he can meet minimal benchmarks for the NCAA and B12 just as any other school.
quote:Would gladly let you take away CJ if you could give the Titans an even average WR Corp. When your starting WRs are Nate Washington and Justin Gage and your top WR stats-wise for the year is a rookie, it's not like you're getting a hell of a lot help in that area. And anyone who has watched the Titans this year could tell you about drop after drop after drop.
I get that you are a Texas fan and want him to do well, but he is the product of the best RB in the NFL. They stack the box which allows hin to have open recivers which he still overthrows, underthrows or throws behind them. He is not a top 15 QB. Take away CJ and he is not even a starter.
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Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:17 am to TulaneTigerFan
Texas is definitely one of the better public schools, but why even bring that up in this discussion?
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:17 am to MemphisTiger
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So, other than tonight, have you watched a single titans game before? Because the stacking the box is just a stupid comment if you've been watching them all fricking season like me.
I have watched them, and I feel sorry for you. Their a decent team with the best Running Back and possibly the best kicker in the NFL. They just have a shitty owner and a mildly retarded QB. Your coach is also a standup guy who deserves better than VY.
P.S. You shouldn't be so angry, they never had a chance against the Chargers. They are the hottest team in the AFC.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:21 am to Ibleedblackandgold
Jeff Fisher has been a great coach through thick and thin, but when it comes to must win games we have always faltered under him! He CAN'T win THE game!
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:21 am to Ibleedblackandgold
quote:If it wasn't for Bud Adams demanding that Fisher start VY and the turnaround that he led them to immediately afterwards, that "standup" guy would still be starting Kerry Collins, the Titans would still have one of the worst records in the League, and Fisher would be out on his arse in Tennessee.
Your coach is also a standup guy who deserves better than VY.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:22 am to Roughneck
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Would gladly let you take away CJ if you could give the Titans an even average WR Corp. When your starting WRs are Nate Washington and Justin Gage and your top WR stats-wise for the year is a rookie, it's not like you're getting a hell of a lot help in that area. And anyone who has watched the Titans this year could tell you about drop after drop after drop.
FWIW, if this actually happened, Vince Young is still riding the pine. They were dropping more balls with Kerry Collins in the lineup and the defense was awful. Kerry was benched because of the owner, and shouldn't be on the bench in the first place.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:23 am to Roughneck
i've been hearing the no wr excuse ever since VY was a rookie. Titans still havent drafted or traded for a WR that is worth a shitte?
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:25 am to lsu xman
Me and my entire family hates Nate Washinton. He's the worst free agent pick up since I've been a fan!
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:30 am to hehateme2285
quote:The vastly superior numbers that VY has put up with that same WR corp calls bullshite on that.
Kerry was benched because of the owner, and shouldn't be on the bench in the first place.
quote:They finally did this past spring when they drafted Britt in the first round. The fact that he's already put up better number than any other Titans WR says so very much about the unit as a whole.
i've been hearing the no wr excuse ever since VY was a rookie. Titans still havent drafted or traded for a WR that is worth a shitte?
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:40 am to Roughneck
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Yeah that's just a bunch of bullshite. Hell, I couldn't even tell you the last JUCO Player we took in for the simple fact that most of them don't stand a chance.
Please. I have seen some of your less than articulate basketball players. Texas is no different than any other school. They meet minimums, they can play. Don't pretend Texas is a Stanford or Notre Dame. Texas isn't a bad academic school but when it comes to athletics they are no different than anyone else.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:49 am to TammanyMan02
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The guy reminds me of "Radio" from the Disney movie.
thats Jason Campbell
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The vastly superior numbers that VY has put up with that same WR corp calls bullshite on that.
In 4 of Kerry Collins 6 losses, the defense gave up over 30 points. The other 2 being 24 to the awful Jets, and 13 to the Steelers in week 1.
In 6 out of VY's 9 starts, they held the opposing offense to under 20 points.
I attribute the turnaround to the defense playing better, not Vince Young being such a great winner. Kerry Collins had the team at 13-3 last year when the defense was playing how it is for Vince. I don't think Kerry Collins suddenly forgot how to play QB. And Collins had more drops from that receiving crew than VY, including going 1 for 10 to being a game, with 6 drops. I'm not saying VY sucks, but Kerry Collins got screwed there by the owner
Posted on 12/26/09 at 12:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Sounding less than articulate =/= simpleton.
Please. I have seen some of your less than articulate basketball players.
Hell, Jamaal Charles when he was at Texas could barely put together a sentence when talking to the media. The fact that he was a member of the National Honor's Society all the way back to HS told a different tale.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 1:03 am to hehateme2285
quote:That was one game and it's not like the WR corp magically turned into catch everything guys once VY got in there.
And Collins had more drops from that receiving crew than VY, including going 1 for 10 to being a game, with 6 drops.
And the Titans D and winning aside, VY's QB Rating is 27 points higher (huge f'n number) than Kerry's this year with the exact same guy to hand off to and the exact same guys to throw too. VY simply got the job done better in every single aspect than Kerry did in 2009.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 1:13 am to Roughneck
Titans have ONLY beaten ONE single team who is OVER .500. And that was Arizona with Warner sitting out and it took making THREE 4TH AND LONG CONVERSIONS on the final drive of the game ending as the clock ran out on a last play of the game 4th and 11 for a TD that beat the Cardinals by 3 points.
This is not a good football team and tonight were missing 2 starting linebackers on top of it.
The joke is anyone who even gave them a chance tonight in this game San Diego wanted bad that really if you used your mind to think, Tennesssee had no chance to make the playoffs even if they were good enough to win.
This is not a good football team and tonight were missing 2 starting linebackers on top of it.
The joke is anyone who even gave them a chance tonight in this game San Diego wanted bad that really if you used your mind to think, Tennesssee had no chance to make the playoffs even if they were good enough to win.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 1:42 am to hehateme2285
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And Collins had more drops from that receiving crew than VY
Link?
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I attribute the turnaround to the defense playing better, not Vince Young being such a great winner
Collins has thrown 216 passes, VY 210. So this is a perfect time for comparison:
VY- 1619 yards/7.71 yards per attempt/60.5%/10 TDs/4 INTs/92.5 rating
KC- 1225 yards/5.67 yards per attempt/55.1%/6 TDs/8 INTs
So, you're STILL going to attribute the turnaround solely to the defense?
And there is no way that drops can have THAT much of a difference, lol.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:29 am to Roughneck
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I'll give you the 11 ahead of him in the QB Rating, Warner, and possibly one other.
you are not really judging QB's on 1 seasons passer rating are you? BTW if you take 13 other QB's that's middle of the pack at best.
Vince has played well since he came back this year. I thought when they were 0-4 they needed to give him a shot and see what he can do. If he played well, great, he can be the starter going forward, if not they need a QB because 58 y/old Kerry Collins is not the answer. Howevah, if the VY fanboys are going to blow up Houston radio every time he plays well and or the Texans lose, then it needs to be pointed out when he plays bad.
This post was edited on 12/26/09 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 12/26/09 at 9:42 am to Roughneck
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VY and the turnaround that he led them to immediately afterwards,
Do explain the brilliant changes VY made as Defensive Coordinator.
I think the idea that Bud forced the change has been over exaggerated by Bud Adams, he's such a classy guy..
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ould still be starting Kerry Collins, the Titans would still have one of the worst records in the League
So with Collins the defense would continue to give up more points? First 6 games they gave up less than 20 points once, the first game. Since the off week after the 0-6 start, they have given up less than 20 five times. Vince has played well, and needed to start, Collins is not the future. But they weren't losing just because of Collins and they didn't start winning just because of Vince. The defense has had a bigger turn around than the QB play. The schedule hasn't hurt either. You'll also note they have not beaten a team that currently has a winning record except for Arizona who played that game with out Warner.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 10:01 am to shel311
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going to attribute the turnaround solely to the defense?
not solely, but in the first 6 games, they gave up 30 4 times and less than 20 once. In the last 9 they have given up more than 30 once and less than 20 five times.
The 2nd half schedule also has helped.
Posted on 12/26/09 at 10:24 am to Earl Candle
They could still do well with him, just rebuild the defense and the OL which is getting old.
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