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I appreciate the dialog and discussion

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Ross seems like a really good dude

much appreciated

Quick question- regardless of legal issues, I assume this will impact his draft status. Knowing that regardless of legal charges perhaps occurring, there will likely be a civil suit that will drag on a bit, would you as a franchise consider it worth it to draft him high?

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I’ve said that I think he read the contents of the text message based on my prior reasoning, and therefore I think he knew there was some sort of animosity between parties and the firearm in his car was being requested.

I don’t think it’s fair to say he knew the gun would be used to actually murder an innocent third party, but I hold to my opinion that by facilitating its transfer in these circumstances he acted with gross negligence and this negligence facilitated a murder.

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Lets say he did know. There’s a good chance he did. Good chance he didn’t. But again, there’s a good chance he did. I’d say 37% chance he didn’t, 63% he did.

You cannot convince me that he needs to hang for delivering the firearm.

1. We know at the very least he was coming back, weapon or not. He was coming back. Again, this dude was coming back whether guns had ever been invented or not.

2. This might be controversial but I don’t think “the text” was aggressive enough to condemn Miller even if he read it and was all about it. “Knowing something might happen” is not a good argument for opposing fans.

3. I reject the idea that Miller should be in trouble for bringing a guy his firearm, and then that guy giving it to some 3rd party who starts blasting like a pos.

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Brandon Miller is a good man. Nobody should think twice about drafting him.

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You're trolling or you're a tone-deaf POS.

Has the all-knowing book reading Lebron James addressed this yet?

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1. We know at the very least he was coming back, weapon or not. He was coming back. Again, this dude was coming back whether guns had ever been invented or not.

2. This might be controversial but I don’t think “the text” was aggressive enough to condemn Miller even if he read it and was all about it. “Knowing something might happen” is not a good argument for opposing fans.

3. I reject the idea that Miller should be in trouble for bringing a guy his firearm, and then that guy giving it to some 3rd party who starts blasting like a pos.

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I’m sorry, but I personally don’t think this is a good take. I think a reasonable person exercising good judgement would have refused to return if he was aware the firearm that was being requested was in his vehicle.

If I was put in this position, I would think the right thing to do is to pull over and call my friend and ask what was going on and why my friend wanted this firearm.


I don’t think what he did constitutes a crime necessarily, nor do I really think society gains much if Miller is charged with a crime on this issue, but I’m not gonna condone this behavior, as I think it’s irresponsible and negligent.

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If I was put in this position, I would think the right thing to do is to pull over and call my friend and ask what was going on and why my friend wanted this firearm.

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In a vacuum, sure. But do these other fellas seem like reasonable people that would take kindly to your denying them of their property, a firearm no less?

It seems to me the situation when the moral dilemma popped up was, presented as though it was me instead of Miller:

I was planning on picking my friend up from a bar after dropping this friend off earlier in the evening, my friend left their gun in my car as they left for the bar and I’m aware of this. I was returning to pick up this friend later when a text came through (that I had enough time to at least glance at and absorb the message of) that indicated the firearm was being requested by the friend because some third party was acting in a disagreeable fashion (I have been guessing fakin = acting tough, but I have no clue let’s be real).

I think you now know the following

(1) my friend expects me to pick them up and I am en route

(2) the firearm in my car has been requested because there is some sort of dispute with a third party

(3) my friends and this third party are all likely intoxicated and therefore their judgements are all impaired

I think you can freeze frame it there and present diverging pathways. The criminal and evil pathway is the one where I want my friend to use this firearm to settle the dispute so I deliver the firearm with this intent in mind. The negligent pathway is the one where I say frick it and show up to the scene and give access to the gun to my friend and just ignore the broader context, but I don’t really want anyone to get into a fight and hold out hope this will all work itself out. The morally right choice is to pull over, call my friend and calm them down and tell them to walk away and they’ll get their gun in the morning when everyone’s nerves are calm.