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re: Tom Brady hid a lot of Patriots weaknesses
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:42 pm to theducks
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:42 pm to theducks
quote:I think you IRL have me confused with someone else
Instagram.
It’s from Jan 2019 after beating KC.
Pretty sure I have never said that in my life much less put that on "IG"
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 2:44 pm
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:45 pm to lsupride87
He was talking about the video Brady posted
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:46 pm to dukke v
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OH but I am..... Re-read your shite and prove me wrong....
Its hard to explain to someone who thinks stupid shite like this is a good point
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So Burrow did not have that much to do with how great LSU was last year???
Of course he did but he does not have the greatest season ever if he had signed with Cincinnati (Bearkats) after leaving Ohio State. what is 100% certain is that you will still miss the point because you can not grasp the simple fact that 2 things can be true at the same time
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:51 pm to H-Town Tiger
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this idea that Brady's had no weapons has been over-exaggerated. LAST YEAR the Patriots O was pretty bad but it was also the first year without Gronk. Wasn't really an issue in 2017-18
After 2017 it fell off a cliff.
2018 was truly amazing they won a Super Bowl with Edleman and 20 percent of Gronk
After that 2017 loss to the eagles, they traded cooks, Gronk hasn’t been that level since, and Edleman has played worse every season since and the veteran fill ins they used to replace that production have all mostly been terrible
That’s 3 straight seasons of having sub par weapons, which ended up wasting possibly the pats best defense of the decade last year
Add on the fact that like 50 elite WR prospects have come into the league since that 2018 draft seemingly, and its real bad
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:53 pm to wildtigercat93
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2018 was truly amazing they won a Super Bowl with Edleman and 20 percent of Gronk
you can thank the blown call in the NFCCG
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:54 pm to tigerskin
That’s been his whole career. One of the hallmarks of Brady’s success over the years has been making guys better than they were previously or after him. Offhand some of the best he ever had were Deion Branch, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman and maybe Troy Brown or Amendola. Of these, the only possible HoF player is Welker.
I don’t include Gronk since he’s a TE but he’s obviously one of the best pass catchers Brady ever had and would have been successful anywhere imo. Same with great pass catching RBs like Faulk.
The only true, no-brainer first ballot HOF WR he ever played with was Randy Moss and they proceeded to break records left and right the first season.
I don’t include Gronk since he’s a TE but he’s obviously one of the best pass catchers Brady ever had and would have been successful anywhere imo. Same with great pass catching RBs like Faulk.
The only true, no-brainer first ballot HOF WR he ever played with was Randy Moss and they proceeded to break records left and right the first season.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:55 pm to Starchild
quote:Of course
That’s been his whole career. One of the hallmarks of Brady’s success over the years has been making guys better than they were previously or after him
He is a HOF top 5 QB of all time. Thats kinda what they do for WRs
Posted on 10/26/20 at 2:58 pm to tigerskin
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Since you a Patriots guy, what was the beef and sticking point regarding Brady and not getting him more weapons in New England?
Belicheck isn’t good at drafting or developing WRs through the draft, and he doesn’t really try to either
That’s compounded by the fact he doesn’t value #1 WRs enough to pay the high money that comes with a top end WR
Brady is extremely impatient with young WRs so he’s partly to blame for the inability for young WRs to develop in NE, as they seem to never be able to change their first impression as a rookie. They never seem to gain the trust of the QB or coaching staff when they get in the building.
Brady got frustrated with that constant issue, and had an opportunity to go to a situation loaded with young pass catchers that were also veteran enough that he knew he wouldn’t have to count on guys he was unsure of.
Weirdly enough, if Antonio Brown could’ve kept his head on straight for that whole season then I think Brady’s free agency might play out a whole lot differently.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:00 pm to Starchild
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That’s been his whole career.
I know this a popular meme but also grossly exaggerated. What elite weapons has Rodgers had? Brees? Manning in Denver?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:01 pm to tigerskin
As much as I despise Brady...his team was dogshit last year
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:05 pm to SpartyGator
quote:His WRs were
his team was dogshit last year
Their run game was good and the defense was absolutely elite last year. I think the defense may have outscored all opponents on their own for like the first 4 games of last season or something crazy like that
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:23 pm to H-Town Tiger
Manning had them most of his career. Aside from Harrison and Wayne in Indy, he had Demaryious Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders on the Denver Super Bowl team.
Rodgers has had numerous too in Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, now Davante Adams.
I feel like all of those guys are better than any Brady had except for Moss. Welker would be on a similar level to some of those. All else are worse.
Brees has been similar I’d say to Brady. Top 2 have to be Marques Colston (criminally underrated) and Thomas. He had Horn for a year and now Sanders. Graham is the Gronk analog. Maybe throw in Cooks. Otherwise similar ok talent at WR that Brees made look way better. Countless examples.
It’s one reason why, to me, Brady and Brees are top 2 all time. They didn’t usually have the best weapons but they still won a lot, put up points in bunches and own records for days. That beats Manning imo.
Rodgers has had numerous too in Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, now Davante Adams.
I feel like all of those guys are better than any Brady had except for Moss. Welker would be on a similar level to some of those. All else are worse.
Brees has been similar I’d say to Brady. Top 2 have to be Marques Colston (criminally underrated) and Thomas. He had Horn for a year and now Sanders. Graham is the Gronk analog. Maybe throw in Cooks. Otherwise similar ok talent at WR that Brees made look way better. Countless examples.
It’s one reason why, to me, Brady and Brees are top 2 all time. They didn’t usually have the best weapons but they still won a lot, put up points in bunches and own records for days. That beats Manning imo.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:38 pm to SpartyGator
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As much as I despise Brady...his team was dog shite last year
Defense was very good last year.
His WRs and TEs were bad. Add in losing your starting center and 2 FBs and yeah, have fun trying to score points.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
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His WRs were
Their run game was good a
The run game was actually bad too
18th in YPG last year, despite being 9th in attempts
3.8 YPC was good for 26th in the league last year tied with Atlanta
Their longest run all season was 33 yards
That whole offense was a mess because no one even took the WRs as a threat and they didn’t have Gronk there as an extra tackle like they did in 2018
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:51 pm to Starchild
Agree
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:59 pm to wildtigercat93
Was it 2018 then when they were dominant running the ball?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:03 pm to lsupride87
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Was it 2018 then when they were dominant running the ba
Yeah they essentially won a Super Bowl Running behind Gronk and Trent brown, Joe Thuney and Shaq mason etc etc
ETA to be clear I meant in the specific Super Bowl game the run game won them the game. Brady lead them in both rounds with his arm and they finished with a ton of rushing TDs because they had a ton of goal line opportunities
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:10 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Thats what I remember.
Yeah they essentially won a Super Bowl Running behind Gronk and Trent brown, Joe Thuney and Shaq mason etc etc
Also, I was supposed to be at the Ralph this weekend with the cuz for my birthday
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:32 pm to lsupride87
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Also, I was supposed to be at the Ralph this weekend with the cuz for my birthday
Damn I’m sorry to hear that baw
Posted on 10/26/20 at 7:17 pm to lsupride87
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lsupride87
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Pretty sure I have never said that in my life much less put that on "IG"
Look at who I replied to
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