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re: Todd McShay: Zach Wilson is "significantly better" than Justin Fields....

Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:02 pm to
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Wilson will end up better than Lawrence

He definitely has the highest ceiling IMO.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:06 pm to
Completely agree. Might b better than Fabio.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:07 pm to
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Fabio

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:11 pm to
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He's the next Jevan Snead.
Come on, man.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:21 pm to
Kid put up two years of potato and then lights up North Alabama and Texas State and these talking heads start SIMPing. What did he do do against equal or better talent? He looked like the same meh quarterback he did the last two seasons.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23106 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:22 pm to
McShay is wrong a ton, just like every GM/Coach/Owner/Fan. He has a shot of being right, but let's look at his observations recently

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McShay said he believes the Browns still need to address the quarterback position, which is no surprise because hey, EVERY mock draft has the Browns taking a quarterback. He added, “This pick obviously changes (or is up for grabs via trade) if Cleveland lands Kirk Cousins in free agency. Between off-field issues for Rosen and his tools and intangibles on the field, Darnold should be the pick. I understand why Kiper went with Josh Allen in his first mock, but Darnold is a little safer. He’s the best of the bunch at this point.”


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"From purely on the field, the grade for Jameis Winston is just behind Andrew Luck's in the last ten years and there is nobody else in between," said McShay.


Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:24 pm to
In terms of pure talent, Jameis has few peers. McShay was right about that. But not even the best scout can tell what is in a guy's head. And Jameis has a 2 cent head.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:25 pm to
Fields has the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft due his athletic profile. Now getting him to that ceiling is a whole other story.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23106 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:28 pm to
He said last week that Darnold was better in college and more pro ready than burrow

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“Sam Darnold was more talented than Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray and Joe Burrow coming out of college,” McShay said. “Darnold just needs people around him.”


He is an expert on tv so people think he's right a lot
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:30 pm to
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Fields has the highest ceiling of any QB in this draft due his athletic profile. Now getting him to that ceiling is a whole other story.


That’s such a cop out statement

“The player I am lobbying for has the tools to be the best, but certain obstacles may prevent him reaching being the best”.

There’s no way you can be wrong with a statement like that.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:32 pm to
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He said last week that Darnold was better in college and more pro ready than burrow


Pretty ridiculous to say that after Burrow’s 2019 campaign, but Darnold did land in quite possibly the worst situation I’ve seen a top QB go to.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:32 pm to
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Fields seems like a guy that TV people are high on, but actual scouts are not.
mcshay is a TV person
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23106 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:34 pm to
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Pretty ridiculous to say that after Burrow’s 2019 campaign, but Darnold did land in quite possibly the worst situation I’ve seen a top QB go to.



I mean every top QB goes to a bad situation right? I just think he's as right or wrong as every team GM or coach or every single fan.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:49 pm to
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That’s such a cop out statement

“The player I am lobbying for has the tools to be the best, but certain obstacles may prevent him reaching being the best”.

There’s no way you can be wrong with a statement like that.



Well for what it’s worth, I’ve said before I wouldn’t make Fields the franchise, but I’m not going to deny his physical attributes either. He needs a place that won’t rush him out right away nor will try to pigeonhole him into an offensive philosophy that doesn’t fit his skill set.

If he goes to the Jets or Broncos or Lions and they throw him out there right away on an offense he’s not suited for, he’s toast. If he goes someplace like say Pittsburgh or Indy that won’t rush him out there and will build a roster and playbook around his strengths, then yeah I think he can be Lamar Jacksonesque (whom is a much better QB than the idiots on here would lead you to believe).
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:50 pm to
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mcshay is a TV person

I hate on McShay a lot because he was basically created by ESPN. However, McShay was one of the first draft prognosticators to start dropping Fields.

His first mock in early January had Fields dropping to the Patriots at pick 15. Since then, a lot of other mocks and prospect rankings have Fields falling as well. McShay was one of the first to predict Fields sliding out of the top 10.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:52 pm to
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He looked like the same meh quarterback he did the last two seasons


You didn’t watch him shut up.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37564 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:54 pm to
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I mean every top QB goes to a bad situation right? I just think he's as right or wrong as every team GM or coach or every single fan.


Adam Gase isnt exactly something every top Qb walks into
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34326 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:06 pm to
I agree w/that.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34326 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:07 pm to
I'm willing to give Darnold a mulligan due to his situation in New York. He was set up to fail. And admittedly, I liked Darnold coming out of USC. I thought he was gonna be a pretty good pro.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27858 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:13 pm to
You should edit that out, so that no one else has to read your ill-advised comparison
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