Tim Tebow and Denver Broncos

No way

no, because they're winning despite him, not because of him.

I mean, shite, he makes Mark Sanchez look like a good QB.

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What's interesting is that Vick's passing ability was criticized MUCH more harshly than Tebow's,

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No...no it wasn't. You may have taken more exception to his criticism but it was never on the level as what Tebow has received (and rightfully so).

All I know is, if he beats the Jets tonight the coverage is going to unbearable for the next 10 days.

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What's interesting is that Vick's passing ability was criticized MUCH more harshly than Tebow's, and Vick was MUCH more accurate than Tebow will ever be. Now, if Tebow were the #1 overall pick and highest paid player in the league, we'd probably see more criticism. But still...

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i think god has more to do with it than race

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Keep in mind that I live in Atlanta and heard all the talk on sports radio here and read the ajc columns, which of course amplifies anything related to the Falcons...

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i don't remember vick having a guy like hodge on tv all the time ripping him apart, every chance he got

with vick it was always "he's going to have to become a better passer"

I hear you.

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because they're winning despite him

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I don't see how this is valid, how is he making the offense worse?
Their offense under Orton:

vs Oakland 310 yards offense, 3 turnovers, controlled ball 27:25 minutes

vs Cincy 318 yards, 2 turnovers, 30:15 minutes

vs Tennesse 231 yards, 2 turnovers, 29:06 minutes

vs GB 384 yards, 4 turnovers, 26:59 minutes

Their offense with combination of the two:
vs SD 275 yards, 1 turnover, 19:52

Their offense under Tebow:
vs Miami 308 yards, 1 turnover, 34:17 minutes

vs Detroit 312 yards, 3 turnovers, 30:26 minutes

vs Oakland 412 yards, 0 turnover, 31:51 minutes

vs KC 313 yards, 0 turnover, 33:38 minutes

they are averaging more yards, less turnovers, and controlling the ball longer with Tebow leading offense.

tt15 is a god person and a great leader on and off the field.....

he will be great during his time in the nfl...he will lead denver to playoffs.....

he has a heisman
he has a bcs title

he will do it in the nfl....he leads the right way....why wouldnt we want him to be successful...instead we want some idiot like ros at pittsburg to win?....come on man

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no, because they're winning despite him, not because of him.

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Riiiiiggggghhhhhttttt. The Broncos in the last two years are 4-14 when Tebow doesn't start, and 5-3 when he does start (my numbers may be off, but only by like one game). This Denver team is pretty crappy all the way around, yet all the "talking heads" want to discuss is the quarterback. They love to say that "Tebow can't win consistently in the NFL, so why waste time with him?" Well, I think that there cornerbacks suck, their wide receivers suck, and their offensive line sucks. Why is Denver wasting time with those players?

It is just driving the "NFL elite" nuts that Tebow has routinely found a way to win ball games. Against the Raiders, they rushed for about 250 more yards with Tebow than they did the first time they played the Raiders this year with a "real NFL quarterback". Has anyone else thought that maybe the ball control offense that the Broncos ran vs the Chiefs greatly helped their poor defense keep the Chiefs off of the field.

I'm pulling hard for the Broncos tonight just to see the "experts" try explain away another Tebow win. They go out of their way to contradict themselves. I heard this morning that if the Broncos fall behind by 2 scores, it might as well be 4 scores the way their offense plods along. Really? Didn't Tim Tebow help to lead the Broncos back from a 15 point defecit with less than 4 minutes in a game just 4 weeks ago?