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RolltidePA
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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will say I really liked Tua's potential coming out of college, he's not near the same player he was before the injury. I agree that Fitz seemed like the better QB this year to me.

I think current comps are $900-$1400 raw.


I liked Tua, fun QB to watch, but Fitz outplayed him and he is a seriously limited QB. Though it shows you you what it takes in the NFL. Have to be smart, know defenses, quickly know reads and then execute physically.

If the rumors are true that Miami was trying to ship him out in a package deal for Watson, that’ll tell you all you need to know.


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RolltidePA
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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I wouldn’t consider late round picks busts. They never had high ceilings to begin with. I’m talking about first rounders from Alabama that have a tendency to not work out.


There are 56 Bama players in the league right now. 34 of them are 1st team
Players. That’s way better than the typical bust rate for the league, a ton of first round picks in there.

They played that myth out a long time ago. Trent Richardson and DJ Fluker are long gone from the league.

Edit: just read that Fluker is still in the league. Never would have guessed.
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TigerOnTheMountain
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
That’s what happens to first round busts. They get bounced from the league.

High profile Alabama players bust at an extremely high rate. Tua is the latest in that trend. I don’t have any ill will towards the guy. Just saying it’s not unusual for players like him from Alabama to flame out.


RolltidePA
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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Just saying it’s not unusual for players like him from Alabama to flame out.


If that was truly the case, teams in the league wouldn’t be taking so many of them. The scouts don’t give a damn about the school or have any allegiances. They know better than any of us here.

The league has a bust rate of over 50% on first round picks, the success rate goes way down after the second round. Bama first rounders are staying in the league at better than a 75% rate 5 years out. So yeah, it is actually pretty unusual for a bust. Unfortunately, it’s looking like Tua is one of them.
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Funky Tide 8
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
Tua was playing less than a year removed from a serious injury. The fact that he was able to play at all against NFL defenses last year is pretty remarkable. Even with his shitty supporting cast, he showed flashes. The way that the dolphins handled the QB situation last year was pretty dumb anyway.

To say that Tua will be a bust after his rookie season coming off of serious injury, and with arse WRs and a less than ideal OC is pretty dumb IMO.


BamaFinland
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
There was a dude in the 50s drafted in the 9th round by the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was cut before the start of the season and went on to do construction work to support his family.

Later the guy signed with the Colts. He went on to win 3 MVP awards.

Franchises give up on players too soon.


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Strannix
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
Tua isn't a wait and see player, he IS a bust


Tigertown in ATL
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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The way that the dolphins handled the QB situation last year was pretty dumb anyway.


Pretty dumb? It was absurd.
Fitz was winning games.
Team was in for him
Tua is a rookie only months from a horrific injury.
No one was clamoring for him to play.
It was an empty stadium environment in a weird season.

The only move was to let him watch and learn


Hamma1122
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
Very average


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Sasquatch smush
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
I’ve never seen a quarterback get so much love despite he never finishes a game. If Fitzpatrick is gone they need to get nick foles to be the finisher


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Funky Tide 8
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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Pretty dumb? It was absurd.
Fitz was winning games.
Team was in for him
Tua is a rookie only months from a horrific injury.
No one was clamoring for him to play.
It was an empty stadium environment in a weird season.

The only move was to let him watch and learn



Couldn't agree more.


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Funky Tide 8
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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Tua isn't a wait and see player, he IS a bust


Well that's an idiotic thing to say.


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SoFla Tideroller
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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High profile Alabama players bust at an extremely high rate.


Link?


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GeauxHouston
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
Grade and keep


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Riseupfromtherubble
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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High profile Alabama players bust at an extremely high rate.




Foster, Warmack, Richardson, McClain, Milliner. Those are the only ones you can call a bust right now. That’s 5/33 under Saban. Please define extremely high rate


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VADawg
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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The way that the dolphins handled the QB situation last year was pretty dumb anyway.


I think what happened is that they got caught off guard by how bad the Texans were and decided to see if they needed to draft another QB. They weren't expecting to be picking that high again.


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ReauxlTide222
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
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Trent Richardson and DJ Fluker are long gone from the league.
no


tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
Is there no one considering that the major hip injury he was still recovering from just might’ve had some negative impact on his delivery and downfield arm strength?

Not to mention the Dolphins offense was a train wreck schematically and significantly worse than the Bama offense from last year from a talent standpoint? There was legitimately one NFL caliber player on that offense by the late season and he was banged up (Gesicki).

He might bust, QBs often do, but he isn’t a bust based on last season yet.


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TheRouxGuru
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
Average at best


Mariota would be a good comparison IMO


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Madking
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re: Thoughts on Tua's Potential as a NFL QB?
Same thing I said pre draft, he’s never shown the ability to go through progressions and has only shown the ability to make accurate throws to one particular spot on the field. Dolphins should’ve drafted Herbert, Tua us a long term project.


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