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This game summed up Lebron’s whole career and the reason he will never be the goat

Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:08 am
Posted by TheGhostOfBigLee
Member since Oct 2018
862 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:08 am
It’s plain and simple. He prioritizes personal achievements over winning. He could’ve gave a shite less if his team went out and won tonight. This sums up his whole career. MJ could’ve gave a frick less about scoring titles, mvp’s, etc… Baw only cared about winning and would do whatever it took to raise the trophy at the end of the year. This is why Lebron will never be viewed in my eyes as in the same category as MJ and Brady. In order to be in the goat conversation you have to win at a high level, which is something Lebron struggles mightily with.
Posted by Champs
Geaux Tigers
Member since Feb 2008
11704 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:10 am to
Top 3 all time. Will never overcome MJ
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:10 am to
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In order to be in the goat conversation you have to win at a high level, which is something Lebron struggles mightily with.


Y’all Lebron haters are some of the craziest people in the world.

The dude has 4 NBA titles and y’all make it seem like he’s Dan Marino or Karl Malone
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:16 am to
No he’s made out to be who he is, a SJW, fake intellectual, race baiting, great basketball player
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:17 am to
He's more like Wilt light.
He could so easily be the undisputed GOAT but he disappears when he feels like it. Several times in his career in big playoff games.

He didn't put it all on the line every time. He just didn't. You could see. And others did, they had this crazy competitive drive he lacks and succeeded more, or at least reached more of their potential.

Just fricking TRY against the fricking Celtics LeBron. Even if you lose take every shot and put up 63 like Jordan on your garbage team and leave it all on the line. Show us everything you got. And if you do win you're the greatest ever. Nope. Disappear in the 4th quarter. Don't even try.
Posted by Smurph33
South
Member since Jan 2021
50 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:23 am to
Win at a high level?! Just how strong is your weed?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11798 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:25 am to
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Y’all Lebron haters are some of the craziest people in the world. The dude has 4 NBA titles and y’all make it seem like he’s Dan Marino or Karl Malone


Yea the Lebron haters are the problem. Def not the fanbois the are beyond delusional lol
Posted by TheGhostOfBigLee
Member since Oct 2018
862 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:31 am to
Lol. All you have to do is look up Lebron’s finals record… Your answer is right there.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 12:32 am
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16854 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:32 am to
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The dude has 4 NBA titles and y’all make it seem like he’s Dan Marino or Karl Malone


Imagine if Marino played in 10 Super Bowls.
Posted by Smurph33
South
Member since Jan 2021
50 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:32 am to
Game 6, 2012 ECF? Does that count vs your Celtics?
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 12:39 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:33 am to
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He's more like Wilt light.


Yes. Wilt light.. despite the fact that Lebron has twice as many rings as Wilt when Wilt was by far and away advantaged by his height and athleticism at that point in time compared to everyone else.

I get not liking Lebron. It's just crazy to me how bias not liking him makes people when watching him play.

The dude is 38 years old and scored 38 points tonight. That's only been done like 30 times in NBA history. He's not without flaws but the lengths people go to make it seem like he's some awful player is absurd. Yes, I know I repeated my point but it truly is incredible the way some of y'all react to Lebron.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47564 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:34 am to
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Several times in his career in big playoff games.


Will give you 2010 round 2 against the Celtics and the 2011 Finals

But he has a championship over the Spurs dynasty and a championship over the Warriors dynasty… and lost 5 potential titles to those two, the likes of which had never been seen before. Who the hell has ever been consistent like those Spurs? Who the hell ever added Durant to a 73 win team?

That’s how good you had to be to beat Lebron
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 12:37 am
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:36 am to
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despite the fact that Lebron has twice as many rings as Wilt when Wilt was by far and away advantaged by his height and athleticism at that point in time compared to everyone else.
that's exactly why hes Wilt light. That's exactly the point. He has a physical advantage over everyone in the league like Wilt, and failed to utilize them and ultimately underperformed his physical advantage due to his crappy personality, like Wilt. But to a lesser degree than Wilt. Not as bad. Wilt light. Thank you
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:37 am to
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Imagine if Marino played in 10 Super Bowls.


It's hilarious that people think it's better to lose in the Conference Finals, early in the playoffs, or miss the playoffs, than lose in the Finals.

Obviously his performance against the Mavs was horrendous. I very much appreciated it. He also has the most buzzer beaters in NBA playoff history so clearly not clutch

I mean, I don't really like this dude all that much but I'm judging his basketball playing, not his life outside the game.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:38 am to
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failed to utilize them and ultimately underperformed his physical advantage due to his crappy personality,


Being one of the top 5 players in the history of the game and failed to utilize his physical skills
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 12:39 am
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:40 am to
He has great accomplishments. He's one of the greatest players ever.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36288 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:40 am to
These guys aren’t even making sense anymore. It’s pretty hilarious.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5618 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:42 am to
If he has the physical skills to be the GOAT, and he's only "Top 5" then by definition he failed to
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20713 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:41 am to
MJ
Kobe
Lebron

I really want to rank bird, wilt, Kareem, above lebron. I can justify ranking each above lebron and then I can also dismiss each as better than lebron
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15294 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:58 am to
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Yea the Lebron haters are the problem. Def not the fanbois the are beyond delusional lol


You sure about that. Because I certainly see a lot more people claim that Lebron is not the Goat And he can never ever pass LeBron, then I see LeBron fans arguing why he should be #1.
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