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re: There is no objective correct way to break the 3 way tie
Posted on 12/1/08 at 11:34 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
Posted on 12/1/08 at 11:34 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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What does any of this have to do with anything? Do you really think that a conference is going to make rules for deciding tie-breakers that has anything to do with what you just said? 3 way tie-breakers are tricky, especially when you're talking about having only 1 loss. Look into the 3 way tie-breakers that the NFL uses.
The difference is that the NFL virtually guarantees that any team capable of winning the playoffs gets into it. Hasn't a wildcard only won the SuperBowl once in history?
Their problem is they take too many teams. 12 out of 32. That would be lot the NCAA taking 45 teams (out of 120) for the Div IA playoff. Heck, LSU would make it this year with those numbers! (Ok, maybe not).
I think 4 is a minimum and 8 is a maximum. We don't want to go overboard - and the problem is, the slope is slippery. Div IAA started with a 4 team playoff, then they went to 8, then 12, then 16, and now in 2010 they are slated to have a 20 team playoff. Div III has a 32 team playoff. Absurd.
I actually think 6 might be the right number. It rewards the #1 and #2 teams with a first round bye - a huge advantage in a 3 round playoff!
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Posted on 12/1/08 at 11:36 am to HusseinTiger
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actually think 6 might be the right number. It rewards the #1 and #2 teams with a first round bye - a huge advantage in a 3 round playoff!
Yeah, but hurts them big-time in the pocketbook.
Trade-off, for sure.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 12:36 pm to HusseinTiger
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Hasn't a wildcard only won the SuperBowl once in history?
No, a in fact a Wildcard team has won 2 of the last 3.
07 NYG, 05 Pitt, 00 Balt, 97 Den, 80 Raiders all won the SB as wildcards.
This post was edited on 12/1/08 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 12/1/08 at 1:19 pm to MrKennedy
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Maybe not changed them, but added them in. The SEC tiebreakers used currently were NOT in place going into the 2003 season, which is when they came up.
When the SEC changed/added the BCS tiebreaker, it was better than the choice in place which was the SEC AD's would vote on their choice.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 3:09 pm to barry
quote:Wrong. There are many.
There is no objective correct way to break the 3 way tie
Posted on 12/1/08 at 3:16 pm to xiv
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Wrong. There are many.
Sarcasm?
Posted on 12/1/08 at 3:53 pm to barry
No sarcasm. Just poor use of the word "many."
It should have been "few." And there are a few. Did you click the link and read the post?
It should have been "few." And there are a few. Did you click the link and read the post?
Posted on 12/1/08 at 3:56 pm to xiv
In soccer goal differential is used. Different sports for sure, but those are at least better ways to decide a tie-breaker. Big-10 uses whoever played the least amount of ooc games vs 1AA teams, that is better also.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 4:11 pm to xiv
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Did you click the link and read the post?
yea i just found it funny you disagreed with many pretty much all the options you laid out.
Scoring Margin- Not fair because not all teams thrive on putting up tons of points
Conference schedule- you have no say in this as well as weather its home or away.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 4:12 pm to MJRuffalo
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Big-10 uses whoever played the least amount of ooc games vs 1AA teams, that is better also.
Are you serious?
Posted on 12/1/08 at 4:15 pm to barry
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yea i just found it funny you disagreed with many pretty much all the options you laid out.
Right you are, but I did agree with one, and I think it's a shame that strength of conference schedule has never been used.quote:I still think this is fair when the teams aren't undefeated. When you lose a game, you put yourself at the mercy of things you can't control; it's just the nature of defeat. Also, it's an even rotation in the Big XII, so it's not as if it's "unfair."
Conference schedule- you have no say in this
In truth, no team ever has any control over it's SOS. If LSU scheduled Oklahoma, Penn State, USC, and Boise State OOC, they could all conceivably go 0-12 and give LSU the weakest schedule in the country; that's beyond LSU's control.
I don't think it's unfair to break the tie with things that are beyond a team's control.
Posted on 12/1/08 at 4:17 pm to barry
Yes. Had their been a 3 way tie between Penn St. Michigan St. and Ohio St. then Michigan st. would have gone to the Rose Bowl since they did not play any 1AA teams.
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