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re: The Unofficial 2018 Australian Open Thread

Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by MidnightVibe
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:02 pm to
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I mean, Fed fans said the same thing about Nadal's 2017 US Open title, so it's even now.



And not just one or two of them. Freaking every fedaphile on here and all his cousins were saying it ad nauseum.

So, yeah, how about we just call that one even?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:05 pm to


Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Fed's forward style is just amazing



It really is. We all know that Fed can be ground down and out by the top guys, and clearly Fed knows this as well, because he's just not allowing it to happen. Apologies in advance for using a phrase that announcers -- Paul Annacone, especially -- have just driven into the ground the last couple years, but he takes all your time away from the first strike and pretty much just suffocates you. And then, of course, he's always always looking to end the point. The latter part has always been true, but the way he gets on top of you from the jump is the recent addition.

Cilic actually didn't play bad from what I saw. To counter Fed's strategy you have to throw the attacking style right back at him. Make him have to run to get that first rally ball. And, most importantly, you have to serve well. That was the difference in the match. Cilic, when he was rolling, was dong the former but not the latter.

A guy with a one-handed backand isn't doing himself any favors standing a foot inside the baseline on the ROS unless he's seeing a lot of second serves or he's playing in the women's final. Cilic let him see way too many second serves, and he was sticking them right back at his feet (a la novak) djokovic).

That's my attempt at a match analysis, but since I watched less than half of it, tifwiw.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:25 pm to
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Well, it's just a shame that Nadal let a lower seeded player whip his arse. Guess he wasn't deserving to be in the AO final this year.

Just like Fed at the US Open last year?

Fed fans' obsession with Nadal continues
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:24 pm to
Doesn't matter what the draw looks like when a player takes home a GS crown in men's tennis contesting best of five sets. I mean you outlast the rest of the field, and that's all it is to it. Not the player's fault who goes out before he does. That being said, I will bet Rafa and Roger both felt at least a little squeeze in each of the last two slams because they were prohibitive favorites going into the finals.

I will say one thing - and I'm an unabashed Fed fan (also a big Rafa fan fwiw). It sure as heck didn't hurt that he played almost all of his matches at night given the brutal conditions of this tourney (pretty sure 6 of the 7 were in nighttime hours).
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:53 pm to
It didn't hurt that Chung got that blister either. Fed probably still wins the match, but not without some battle scars (metaphorically). He wouldn't have been nearly as fresh in the final as he was.
Posted by TigersFan64
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:45 pm to
I merely replied to a Nadal fan who gratuitously made a subtle jab at Federer's winning his 20th grand slam. No obsession here.
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:38 am to
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That's my attempt at a match analysis, but since I watched less than half of it, tifwiw

Just admit: you only tuned in to hate-watch Fed
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 10:52 am to
quote:

So, yeah, how about we just call that one even?


I mean Nadal didn't play a single top 20 player in his run to the US open title last year. Has that ever been done before?

I do agree that Fed got a real easy draw until the finals. His draw on paper at the beginning looked next to impossible. But everyone one of those threats got knocked off early.
Posted by OrangeBlood
Austin
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 11:15 am to
Those gifs and that shot...SMH.

I'm not sure if the casual fan realizes this, but anyone who has played any amount of tennis, even high level juniors etc., knows how extremely difficult that shot was. Amazing even.

Fed's ability to take balls on the rise/short hop like this, especially with a one-handed backhand, is simply incredible. Maybe he's not the quickest, fastest, hardest hitter, etc. (although he's obviously in the top 1% of the best at those even), but his feet and hand eye coordination have to be the best. And mentally, in a sport where so many of the top players even display their negativity openly to their own detriment, he is ridiculously calm and even keeled.
Posted by BigPapiDoesItAgain
Amérique du Nord
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:12 pm to
That shot was a thing of beauty. Off-balance, overrunning it and moving backwards. Off the top of my head, Agassi is perhaps the only rival for how good he is at taking the ball early. I'd prob have to throw Jimmy Connors' name in that mix as well. That is a skill is one of the hardest things to acquire in tennis if you ask me. Requires conviction as well as the hand eye to execute it.


Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:50 pm to
Did anyone else notice that Federer switched rackets when he was up 3-1 in the fourth. After that he proceeded to miss almost everything long and couldn't hit a first serve to save his life and lost the next five games in a row.

Wonder why he switched rackets after everything was going perfectly?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:55 pm to
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Wonder why he switched rackets after everything was going perfectly?
New balls......

They always for the most part switch at ball change
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

I mean Nadal didn't play a single top 20 player in his run to the US open title last year. Has that ever been done before?


All you can do is beat the people you play against. Not his fault if the other top players don't make it to that round for one reason or another.

You can definitely say it was easier, but for anyone to argue it diminishes the title at all is ridiculous to me.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8821 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 9:49 am to
quote:

All you can do is beat the people you play against. Not his fault if the other top players don't make it to that round for one reason or another.

You can definitely say it was easier, but for anyone to argue it diminishes the title at all is ridiculous to me.


I agree with you. But seriously, does anyone know if never having to beat a top 20 player has ever been done before. Have to imagine that is extremely rare and almost impossible.
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