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re: The Top 10 Coaches in FBS history?
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:13 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:13 pm to RollTide1987
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Which wouldn’t be possible at either of those schools if you weren’t consistently competing for championships - which is what both coaches did during their time there.
I didn’t say they weren’t successful. I said they both inherited a machine that helped enable their success. They sustained programs that were already prominent, successful, and firing on all cylinders.
They started their HC careers on 3rd base.
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:15 pm to RollTide1987
You putting Bo over John McKay… what a dipshit… John beat no every time they played in the rose bowl. And McKay coached one of the greatest teams of all time in the 1972 Trojans…
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:23 pm to Globetrotter747
No, Switzer was hot right out of the gate lost just one of his first 34 games
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:26 pm to TigerintheNO
Correct. Those mid 80’s sooner teams were great to watch…
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:44 pm to TigerintheNO
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No, Switzer was hot right out of the gate lost just one of his first 34 games
Jesus, frick.
OU was 22-2 the previous two years and had arguably the best team to not win the national title in 1971.
Switzer inherited a damn good situation. A hell of a lot better than most first year head coaches.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:19 pm to Globetrotter747
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Switzer inherited a damn good situation. A hell of a lot better than most first year head coaches.
And he sustained that level for a decade and a half.
Not to mention he was left to clean up his predecessor's mess after it was discovered that recruiting violations were committed during the '72 season which involved altered transcripts. Oklahoma couldn't go to a bowl game in either '73 or '74 due to the sanctions handed down by the NCAA.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 11/15/24 at 6:29 pm to RollTide1987
An absolute shite list without Urban. 
Posted on 11/15/24 at 9:01 pm to GoGators1995
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An absolute shite list without Urban.
Bo Schembechler. The Jeff Bower of the Big 10
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 1:37 am to RollTide1987
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And he sustained that level for a decade and a half.
I am sure Switzer still would have won three national titles and played for a couple more if Chuck Fairbanks had been a lifer at OU and he had ended up at Arkansas or elsewhere.
No one is saying Switzer wasn't a great football coach (or even out of the Top 10), but he didn't have to build shite from scratch (in college or the NFL). He inherited a blue blood program in a prime situation in a conference with notoriously bad competition. Not that what he accomplished was easy and anyone with a whistle and clipboard could have done it - and I said so in my original post - but we are debating the Top 10 greatest coaches of all time, not just who was able to avoid being a Larry Coker.
All else being equal, give me a coach who built a foundation that wasn't already there.
I like Switzer. But taking over Oklahoma in 1973 and the Dallas Cowboys in 1994... pretty nice circumstances for your only two head coaching jobs.
This post was edited on 11/16/24 at 1:38 am
Posted on 11/17/24 at 5:11 am to RollTide1987
Red Blaik. 19 years st Army. 3 National Championshops. 3 Heismans. 6 undefeated teams.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:38 am to GusAU
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He coached at Auburn for a quarter century and only had one 10-win season.
1957 10-0
1972 10-1
1974 10-2
Shug was a man’s man.
He was involved in multiple landings in WW2 as a combat engineer.
North Africa, Sicily, Normandy, and Okinawa.
I don’t think he is on a list of 25 greatest football coaches, but as far as 25 great Americans from the SEC- he is certainly near the top of that list if not #1.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:02 am to RollTide1987
OU won a split title while they were on probation
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:54 am to RollTide1987
I prefer to label as "great" coaches who completely turn things around.
Bill Snyeder
Gary Barnett
Howard Schnellenberger (at TWO programs at that!)
In terms of "long termers" I would add Don James (Washington).
Bill Snyeder
Gary Barnett
Howard Schnellenberger (at TWO programs at that!)
In terms of "long termers" I would add Don James (Washington).
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:56 pm to RollTide1987
I'd have to put Spurrier and Lavell Edwards on any list.
Both took their schools to new levels and arguably revolutionized CFB.
Edwards has a unbelievable coaching tree
Both took their schools to new levels and arguably revolutionized CFB.
Edwards has a unbelievable coaching tree
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Three NFL head coaches have come from the Cougars, and each of them have won Super Bowls, including Andy Reid, who looks to earn a third ring in five seasons Sunday in Las Vegas
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More than 20 college head coaches — and a number of other accomplished coordinators — spent time on BYU’s staff with Edwards.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:50 pm to RD Dawg
Edwards is mostly unknown to the modern fan. He was well ahead of his time.
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:51 pm to Porpus
The TS penalizes Urban for off the field stuff while giving a pass to Osborne and Paterno.
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