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re: The Steelers traded the 18th pick for Minkah
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:29 am to KillerNut9
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:29 am to KillerNut9
If you think he’s gonna win it, then top 3, in your eyes, should be a 100% lock. Not an “about as much of a” lock.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:31 am to ReauxlTide222
I’ve been realistic about the Steelers defense, and they were absolute shite for the past 5 years.
They have been lights out ever since the Minkah trade, and every defensive statt backs it up. Guy will legitimately be in the Polamalu category when it’s all said and done.
They have been lights out ever since the Minkah trade, and every defensive statt backs it up. Guy will legitimately be in the Polamalu category when it’s all said and done.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 1:32 am
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:35 am to MSH
He is a 100% lock to be in the top 3.
I will never be able to dictate humans, but the guy absolutely deserves to win it. If he doesn’t, he will be 2nd or 3rd in voting. No doubt.
I will never be able to dictate humans, but the guy absolutely deserves to win it. If he doesn’t, he will be 2nd or 3rd in voting. No doubt.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:37 am to KillerNut9
So you’re already walking back your comment that he is going to win it.
Now he deserves to win it? Will he get a participation trophy as well?
Now he deserves to win it? Will he get a participation trophy as well?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:37 am to KillerNut9
I’m trying to figure out why Cast told me to go to bed.
I’ve used nothing but his opinions here.
His comment about the trade was, “missed the playoffs and missed out on a top 5 pick.”
Then argued that Minkah was WHY Pitt missed out on the 5th pick.
Then said he alone is worth 2-3 wins.
1 player on a rookie deal is enough to take an NFL team from 18th to 5th but he isn’t worth that 18th pick.
But that 5th pick is absolutely going to be worth 2-3 wins for the Steelers.
Cast, go to bed.
I’ve used nothing but his opinions here.
His comment about the trade was, “missed the playoffs and missed out on a top 5 pick.”
Then argued that Minkah was WHY Pitt missed out on the 5th pick.
Then said he alone is worth 2-3 wins.
1 player on a rookie deal is enough to take an NFL team from 18th to 5th but he isn’t worth that 18th pick.
But that 5th pick is absolutely going to be worth 2-3 wins for the Steelers.
Cast, go to bed.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:39 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:now point to where I said this.
1 player on a rookie deal is enough to take an NFL team from 18th to 5th but he isn’t worth that 18th pick.
But that 5th pick is absolutely going to be worth 2-3 wins for the Steelers.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:42 am to MSH
I asked if you wanted to beat. And then you asked if the bet was for a top 5 finish with the odds.
I then said he’d definitely finish top 3 because I can’t predict how humans would bite the award.
I haven’t walked anything back.
I then said he’d definitely finish top 3 because I can’t predict how humans would bite the award.
I haven’t walked anything back.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 1:43 am
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:58 am to castorinho
You immediately pointing out that they missed the playoffs is you insinuating that the trade was shite. Then you guessed what pick they might have without making the trade.
Now the trade for this rookie is worth 2-3 wins. How many trades for the 18th pick are worth 2-3 wins, Cast? And that IMMEDIATELY, mid season. How many?
Why are you asking me to show you where you said this? You CLEARLY insinuated that the trade wasn’t worth it.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:06 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:I love how you clearly cropped out the part of the OP I was responding to
You immediately pointing out that they missed the playoffs is you insinuating that the trade was shite.
You want to argue just to argue, so let me tell you what I think so you stop putting words into my mouth.
1- I disagree it was an "all time trade."
2- OP disingenuously calling it the “18th pick."
Now that, I've made that clear AGAIN. Feel free to argue those points. Still on vacation, so I'll be here all night
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:14 am to castorinho
:facepalm:
Nobody cares about the all time trade comment. It’s horribly incorrect and nobody who read it feels like addressing it, except you. It’s terribly low hanging fruit.
Now everything else you’ve said about the trade is stupid. I’m not arguing to argue.
Your take on this trade is stupid.
Nobody cares about the all time trade comment. It’s horribly incorrect and nobody who read it feels like addressing it, except you. It’s terribly low hanging fruit.
Now everything else you’ve said about the trade is stupid. I’m not arguing to argue.
Your take on this trade is stupid.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 7:14 am to castorinho
quote:
2- OP disingenuously calling it the “18th pick."
Lol more disingenuous to say it’s the 5th pick.
Either way though it’s worth it so not sure what your point is.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 7:25 am to UltimateHog
quote:
no Khalil Mack trade
weird one.
Cost raiders a couple games.
"So no 5th seed."
But new fans see Raiders with two firsts.
Oakland tv sets will still see them get screwed by refs.
Tuck rule?!?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 7:28 am to KillerNut9
I was very wrong here
I said they'd end up with around the 11th pick in the draft after the trade.
I said they'd end up with around the 11th pick in the draft after the trade.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 7:47 am to KillerNut9
It was a good trade for both teams. Dolphins needed an asset and the Steelers got a great young defensive back.
Neither team made the trade for just this year.
Neither team made the trade for just this year.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 7:51 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
So you’re saying he alone is worth 2-3 wins? And on the other hand you’re arguing that he wasn’t worth the 5th to 18th pick? Am I talking crazy pills? Every fricking coach on earth would take a player 1 to fricking 10,000 if they knew they’d immediately make a 2-3 win difference. What in the absolute frick are you arguing here?
The OP is saying Minkah completely transformed the defense. Castor is saying if that’s the case the Steelers likely would’ve had a much higher pick without said positive transformation.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 7:54 am
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:15 am to KillerNut9
quote:
Legit NFL trade of all time
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:45 am to castorinho
quote:If you think Minkah is the difference between the 5th and 18th pick, then the Steelers won that trade in a landslide.
Missed the playoffs and don't have a potential 5-10th pick.
If you ask any coach or any sane person if they'd trade a 5-10 pick for a guy who is worth up to 3 wins per season, they'd all take that in a heartbeat.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 8:49 am
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:47 am to castorinho
quote:As I said above, if the 1 player hte Steelers got equates to 3 wins per year, then he's one of the GOAT safeties, and that was a no brainer deal.
I removed 2-3 wins based on the impact he ha. Which is where it lands them.
Also means the Dolphins gave away a player who could have made them a respectable 8-8, a huge whiff.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:53 am to KillerNut9
I was not a fan of it when it went down, but I think it was a good trade.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:54 am to shel311
quote:But the trade wasn't made for one season.
As I said above, if the 1 player hte Steelers got equates to 3 wins per year, then he's one of the GOAT safeties, and that was a no brainer deal.
quote:not necessarily. Now they can have what they think can be a franchise QB. And since they won a few more games than anticipated, they can use the Steelers pick to move up a spot if they fear a team might take the player they want.
Also means the Dolphins gave away a player who could have made them a respectable 8-8, a huge whiff.
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