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re: The Shrine on Airline could get a major facelift

Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Parish officials have discussed using $15 million of the American Rescue Plan funding the parish received, although the renovation is expected to cost two to three times that much.


This is an absurd boondoggle and the poster who said turn it into a Costco is correct.

How does it cost $45,000,000 to add open air stadium seating along one sideline and one end zone of a soccer/rugby/football field? Per the renderings, the existing baseball grandstand will remain untouched. Those existing seats will provide awful site lines for half the attendees.

The article notes they hope the state covers the balance of the project. If $45,000,000 (will cost at least 150% of that) of government money is going to go to build a new stadium, at least build decent facility that can attract international mens soccer rather than shoe horning a soccer field next to an old baseball grandstand. And no doubt this will all be built in a special tax district exempt for basic sales and property taxes benefiting the parish.

Or, as noted above, sell the property to Costco or IKEA and generate actual tax revenue for the parish. Take the $15,000,000 of federal covid money you were going to spend on this, pile it up in a stack of ones and light it on fire on Christmas Eve so papa Noel can navigate. At least then we will all know where the money went.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28445 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:36 pm to
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Add a walking/biking bridge to connect the two sides and revitalize that area


Let me get this straight: you want to build a pedestrian/bicycle only bridge over the Mississippi River to connect the CBD to a minor league baseball park in Algiers?

We need visionaries like you in Washington
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28445 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:38 pm to
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I’d imagine it would be extremely expensive to build a bridge like that, plus it would have to be so high for ships to fit under it that it would be way too difficult to bike up and down.


There are just 18 bridges crossing the Mississippi south of the Ohio. I don’t think a pedestrian/bicycle only bridge is likely
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
127672 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:47 pm to
Looks like a sweet little MLS stadium
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53808 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:22 pm to
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If $45,000,000 (will cost at least 150% of that) of government money is going to go to build a new stadium, at least build decent facility that can attract international mens soccer


Have you seen the new generation of MLS stadiums?
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5583 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:35 pm to
I have. They are great. That’s kind of my point. I’d be more supportive of this if they were actually talking about a building a facility up to MLS standards. But this seems like a halfway step that will just spend a bunch of money, please no one and result in calls for a “phase 2” so we can really compete with the new generation of stadiums.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43960 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:23 pm to
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I’d imagine it would be extremely expensive to build a bridge like that, plus it would have to be so high for ships to fit under it that it would be way too difficult to bike up and down.


There are just 18 bridges crossing the Mississippi south of the Ohio. I don’t think a pedestrian/bicycle only bridge is likely



Bring this back.


Have it drop people of in just behind the outfield.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53808 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:29 pm to
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hey were actually talking about a building a facility up to MLS standards


but we're not getting an MLS team. so i'm okay with a second rate stadium
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43960 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 5:39 pm to


Blue and white? Looks like the Breakers found a home when the USFL decides to actually have teams play in their home cities.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5583 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:59 pm to
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but we're not getting an MLS team. so i'm okay with a second rate stadium


Yea I’m not under any delusion that we could get an MLS team. But if they are saying $45 million now we talking about a 75+ million project when it’s done. That seems like an awful lot of money for a rugby team and second tier soccer team. To me that isn’t a project that improves the quality of life for parish residents or provides any tax dollar return to justify the cost.

But really, the cost of municipal construction projects is also just a general pet peeve of mine that no one seems to care about. This project involves no land acquisition, no environmental remediation, no parking structures or major demolition. And yet no one will bat an eye at 45 million as the starting point for a turf field and bleacher seating.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2849 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:27 pm to
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MLB took away 42 minor league teams a couple of years ago. each team only has 4 now. no new teams are coming, all you could hope for is for one to move.


Rob Manfred has been an absolute disaster as commissioner. He needs to go, and soon.
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