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re: The ATL Thread: Offseason Edition

Posted on 12/14/11 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 11:34 pm to
Crazy to think it truly would be.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 11:43 pm to
I just hope we don't sit on our hands.

With the young talent we have, if we get to 2017 or so without a World Series, we've completely fricked up and everyone in this organization won't deserve their job.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14423 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 7:19 am to
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I just still don't fricking understand why he can't buy the team back.
I don't think Ted has the money to do so these days. Yes he is still rich as a MF compared to the average guy (and maybe even compared to the average OTer here on TD) but he took a big monetary hit with the Time-Warner and AOL deals.

A few years ago he had to withdraw, or at least substantially reduce, the amount of a donation he had pledged to the United Nations for some humanitarian work they were doing. He is living life comfortably, but I don't think he will ever have the available funds to buy a major league sports franchise ever again.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:17 pm to
The Orioles message board won't activate my account. Bastards.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:24 pm to
I thought the Cubbies were still rumored to be big in the Darvish bidding.
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
108128 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:26 pm to
Not gonna lie, I'd watch you argue with the tards.
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:30 pm to
From everything I've read, they were below both the Rangers and the Blue Jays.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:31 pm to
Interesting, I haven't really followed that closely, I just saw some tweet of a quote from someone in the CUbs and they said something to the effect of, "I wouldn't be surprised if we won the bid."
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:32 pm to
Heard the Rangers were in the 40 mill range. Think the Jays won the bid with 53
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 6:22 pm to
Jurrjens for Yonder Alonso. Who wants to do this?
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 6:24 pm to
Want more. Give me a mid level pitching prospect. Always get a pitching prospect in return.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
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40723 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 6:34 pm to
I'm game. Even though Yonder is supposedly an awful LF.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 6:36 pm to
He is. If he was even just average, or slightly below average, I'd be all for it.
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:16 am to
You can scratch Rado from Prado's possible destinations. They signed Cuddy today
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:30 am to
Good. We do not match up that well imo.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3386 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:49 am to
So let's see...

Braves have done what this offseason?

-Trade Derek Lowe (good move)
-Acquired some Lefty minor league reliever via Rule 5 draft

-Non-tendered A Gonz, Moylan and Conrad.

I keep checking a couple of times a day to see if they've done anything.... and nope.

Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:50 am to
Yeah, the pace is certainly depressing.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3386 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:50 am to
Question for the group -

1.) Why in the world would we ever even consider trading Martin Prado???

2.) Why do we want to trade Jurrjens? A young, really good starting pitcher entering his prime years.

Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 10:55 am to
Depending on what you think of them going forward, a lot of people believe they may have "peaked" or their stints of greatness are unsustainable.

My personal opinion is that Prado is a solid utility player that may not be able to repeat his years of hitting .300, etc. He's also not exactly natural in LF. But his versatility and team player mentality is awesome.

As for Jurrjens, I've been big on trading him, mostly because he's just excess. We have younger pitchers with higher ceilings behind him, so we don't "need him." He's a solid pitcher for sure, but likely outperformed his talent early last year. But then he underperformed it in the second half, so hard to tell exactly who he is.
This post was edited on 12/16/11 at 10:55 am
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18342 posts
Posted on 12/16/11 at 11:11 am to
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You can scratch Rado from Prado's possible destinations. They signed Cuddy today


Wouldn't that make it more likely they try and get Prado? Any deal has seemed like it has centered around Seth Smith and a prospect. Well now, Seth Smith has no value but a bench bat for them so they won't be hesitant to move him. They also will probably be more inclined to give up one of the prospects that we want.
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