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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:58 pm to
Please don't tard up this thread.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:03 pm to
Finkle has already done that.
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:11 pm to
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You're not getting rid of Seitzer after one bad year


Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't help to have Chipper going on podcasts saying how he hates their hitting approach. Even if he meant the league as a whole. AA can trot the same lineup out there next year and hope for closer to 2023 results, but if they show next year and continue to miss 93 mph center cut fastball and continue to fail to score guys on 3rd with less than 2 outs, it's going to lead to some problems.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:15 pm to
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Doesn't help to have Chipper going on podcasts saying how he hates their hitting approach


Chipper is a hitting consultant for us, he deserves some of the blame too.

And yes, you have to move on from Seitzer. Every hitter other than Ozuna, was significantly worse than last season.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:30 pm to
I think the truth lies in a happy medium between this year's offense and last year's offense.

Good organizations don't get rid of coaches after one bad year. That is something clown organizations like the Pirates do
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Good organizations don't get rid of coaches after one bad year.


So why has our playoff hitting been putrid once pitching ratchets up?

I get that you're terrified of change and you hate saying bad things about anyone that is associated with the team you root for, but there is a deeper problem than just "this was a bad year for hitting."

We're on the backend of our window, you don't really have the luxury of waiting to see if a problem will fix itself.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 1:58 pm to
Chipper wasn’t on staff this year.
Posted by swagsurfin7
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Chipper is a hitting consultant for us, he deserves some of the blame too.



No he wasn't. Not this season.
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Chipper wasn’t on staff this year.


correct. and may explain some of our hitting woes
Posted by Boss
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:15 pm to
Snit is gonna get “promoted.” Inner circles pushing hard for Derosa to take over. Would be a great hire and change the culture of the team as we move away from the Bobby Cox era.
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:29 pm to
Meh. Has he managed anything other than the Olympic team?
And Snit will be manager again next season.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:38 pm to
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Chipper wasn’t on staff this year.



I missed that news
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:40 pm to
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Would be a great hire


Why would DeRosa be a great hire?

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as we move away from the Bobby Cox era.


By hiring someone who played for Bobby and has said his favorite manager was Bobby?


Hmmmm
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:51 pm to


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Arcia hit .330 with an .871 OPS in his first 53 games in 2023, through June 22. It was the best extended stretch of his career and earned him his first All-Star selection at age 28.

Since then, Arcia has hit .219 with a .638 OPS in 931 plate appearances, the fourth-lowest average and second-worst OPS among all MLB qualifiers in that stretch. His .273 on-base percentage in that stretch is four points lower than any other major leaguer with at least 700 plate appearances in that span.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:52 pm to
He’s fine playing the role he played in 2021 and 2022 for $2M the next 2 years but cannot be an everyday player anymore.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:58 pm to
I’m switching the spreadsheet over to all luxury tax numbers since we’re deep into the tax and heading for the maximum penalty next season. We should still have some room to play with. All the money we took on in the Kelenic deal falling off will help quite a bit. All the extensions are going to really pay off here in the next few years but I’ll be interested to see if we try to duck under the CBT number for a year here to reset the penalties. We’ll have ASG revenue and likely playoff revenue next year so getting under for a year before that influx could make some sense with how much payroll certainty we have with our core and could set us up for a massive payroll coming off the ASG.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 2:59 pm to
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but cannot be an everyday player anymore.


If we're honest, he should've never been put in that position because he is easy for pitchers to figure out an effective plan of attack over the course of 162 games.

Totally fine with him being a UI.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:50 pm to
So we got the Mets and Phillies making it farther than us in the postseason… awesome.

Maybe it’ll make us less guarded when it comes to moves this offseason.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:52 pm to
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So we got the Mets and Phillies making it farther than us in the postseason… awesome.


I kinda think the Padres will beat whoever comes out of that series
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 8:54 pm to
Nah. AA gonna stay below that last luxury tax threshold like someone mentioned earlier.
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