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re: Tech/ULM football series

Posted on 10/4/09 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 10/4/09 at 4:37 pm to
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Do you really think Tech or any other D-1 program is scared to ULM??? What has ULM done to scare anyone?
They beat Tech 9 out of 12 years once. That's exactly what happened.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/4/09 at 4:48 pm to
And since then have laid the biggest egg in college football history!
Posted by LSULM FAN
Frisco, Tx
Member since Feb 2004
549 posts
Posted on 10/4/09 at 5:31 pm to
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Do you really think Tech or any other D-1 program is scared to ULM??? What has ULM done to scare anyone?


I don't think he means they are scared to actually play the game. Trust me, being a fan of ULM and seeing the product they have put on the field for the last 15 years, I know no one is scared to play them. He is saying that if Tech and ULM play and ULM wins, Tech is scared of the consequences of the loss.

There is no other reason for the series to start up again. No one on this board knows the real reasons behind this rivalry not being started up. Unless you happen to have inside info, but I doubt anyone does. Being a ULM fan, growing up in Monroe, and having relatives in Ruston, I have grown up knowing the attitude Tech fans have. I for one don't dispute the fact that Tech has had more success historically and more success since moving to I-A. The numbers don't lie. The problem is the attitude that Tech is SO much better than ULM. That ULM needs to be shut down. We all know Tech is an older school than ULM, but ULM was opened in 1931, I don't see it going anywhere. Also as the facts have been presented, ULM has owned Tech for periods of time just has Tech has owned ULM. Just because the last time we played and Tech won all four games, three of which weren't competitive (1997 was an awesome game), doesn't mean there is no chance than ULM can't be dominant for a period of time in the future. I have been on this board for over five years, and I find it funny that this type of topic has only been started since Tech has had one decent season (last year) and is looking decent currently. So now it seems that the Tech fans associate this recent success to being a dominant program historically. Which is not the case. Tech fans may feel they are leaps and bounds ahead of ULM, but it really isn't as far as they think it is. As has been stated many times, LSU is much farther ahead of Tech than Tech is to ULM. If LSU and Tech played 10 times, LSU would win 10 times. If Tech and ULM played 10 times, Tech may get the edge and win 6. Just my opinion, I'm sure it's much different than yours.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 1:02 am to
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He is saying that if Tech and ULM play and ULM wins, Tech is scared of the consequences of the loss.
Exactly. Tech is running from this simple fact: No matter how bad ULM is, they can still beat Tech in any given year.

If Tech avoids playing ULM, Tech never has to suffer the consequences of that. The rub there is that Tech has gained NOTHING from avoiding ULM.
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As has been stated many times, LSU is much farther ahead of Tech than Tech is to ULM. If LSU and Tech played 10 times, LSU would win 10 times. If Tech and ULM played 10 times, Tech may get the edge and win 6.
Read that over and over, Tech fans. To avoid ULM is to avoid this fact, and nothing more.
Posted by Ktulu7
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 9:49 am to
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No matter how bad ULM is, they can still beat Tech in any given year.


LOLOLOLOL!!!! Riiiiiight, okay I want whatever you're smokin', man. Have fun on your high horse, even though it's more like a Shetland pony. ULM's the one that has turned Tech down anyway, so this whole big massive retarded argument thread is worthless. I'm glad we're not playing anyway, because ULM acts like they need the game. Anything that buries that worthless program will make me chuckle because of the way their fans act. Otherwise, I'd be happy for ULM to be successful, because I love North Louisiana. Seriously, I grew up around Monroe, so I've always had a tie to the area, but ULM fans these days are ridiculous. You really should spend more time talking about something positive to the seven other ULM/LSU fans or whatever, Mr. XIV, instead of wasting so much negative energy on whining about a Tech series that ain't gonna happen. Just beat ULL and win the Sun Belt. That can happen, because the Warhawks are doing pretty well this year. Just chill the frick out with the bitching, JEEZ.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 3:05 pm to
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LOLOLOLOL!!!! Riiiiiight, okay I want whatever you're smokin', man.
It's a fact, man. Tech's best team is still bad enough to lose to ULM. That's just the level that Tech is at. That isn't a knock at Tech; it's just a fact.
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ULM's the one that has turned Tech down anyway
ULM wants home/home. Tech doesn't.
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I'm glad we're not playing anyway, because the three losses to ULM every decade would cost us a CUSA invite that will never come anyway.
Fixed.
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I'd be happy for ULM to be successful, because I love North Louisiana. Seriously, I grew up around Monroe, so I've always had a tie to the area, but ULM fans these days are ridiculous.
I love football, and I love North Louisiana. Therefore, I want North Louisiana's best rivalry to continue as it should. For Tech to avoid the rivalry is for Tech to be a chickenshit pussy of a program.
Posted by Ktulu7
Member since Feb 2005
784 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 3:27 pm to
XIV = delusion

Enjoy being at the bottom of FBS, especially in fanhood.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
5061 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 3:31 pm to
So XIV do you also think that LSU needs the Tulane game every year? Revive that old rivalary? Is it that LSU needs Tulane or does Tulane need the LSU game more? Do you like or want to continue this rivalry more than Alabama or Ole Miss?
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/5/09 at 4:48 pm to
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ULM wants home/home. Tech doesn't.


Wouldn't ulm do anything they could to renew the rivalry then if they really wanted to play? Tech doesn't have to do anything they don't want (games with houston and southern miss).
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
7637 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 5:35 pm to
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Wouldn't ulm do anything they could to renew the rivalry then if they really wanted to play? Tech doesn't have to do anything they don't want (games with houston and southern miss).


This is basically everyone in this thread minus xiv's logical conclusion.
Posted by LSULM FAN
Frisco, Tx
Member since Feb 2004
549 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 5:45 pm to
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Wouldn't ulm do anything they could to renew the rivalry then if they really wanted to play? Tech doesn't have to do anything they don't want (games with houston and southern miss).
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This is basically everyone in this thread minus xiv's logical conclusion.


Not mine. Why would there be an agreement between two equal schools 35 miles apart where one school travels that 35 miles (ULM) one year and the other school (TECH) won't make the return trip the following year? Why would ULM agree to this? I think this shows that ULM is not so desparate, as some of you have mentioned, for this rivalry to continue. It seems that only ULM sees that type of agreement is ludicrous. If ULM was SO desparate to renew this rivalry at all costs, don't you think ULM would have sigend that ridiculous agreement with Tech???
Posted by LSULM FAN
Frisco, Tx
Member since Feb 2004
549 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 6:01 pm to
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LOLOLOLOL!!!! Riiiiiight, okay I want whatever you're smokin', man.


So you really think ULM could NEVER beat Tech if they started playing again???

Ask the Nick Saban coached Crimson Tide who lost to ULM in 2007 21-14. I guess Tech was better than Alabama that year too.

How about last year, we lost to Arkansas in the last minute 28-27? If we stayed with the Hogs, don't you think it's possible we could have beat Tech?

How about in 2006, we lost to Kansas 21-19 and Kentucky 42-40? Even though we lost, we were still in a position to win. You don't think we could have been in a position to beat Tech too if we played?

Posted by lsudawg70
Huntsville
Member since Aug 2009
1601 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 6:42 pm to
For now it seems that Tech just doesn't want to play ULM so xiv just needs to get over it...

Are we scared to play Tulane because we dropped the annual series??? Try to use some logic when you post please
Posted by Ktulu7
Member since Feb 2005
784 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 7:13 pm to
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For now it seems that Tech just doesn't want to play ULM so xiv just needs to get over it...

Are we scared to play Tulane because we dropped the annual series??? Try to use some logic when you post please


DING! We really could care less about ULM. Just because they whine like this every season and want to play, does not mean we have to. If ULM's so awesome, they should just go out and win some games and stop worrying about what Tech does. Honestly, this would be like if I came on here bitching that LSU won't come play in Ruston or Shreveport because they're "sooooo scared of Tech." It's obviously a no-brainer that our programs are not on the same footing right now, and that LSU doesn't gain anything by going to Ruston and possibly losing. However, Tech still has signed 3 one-and-done games at LSU, because if/when we beat the Tigers again, then we have some room to spout crap. It's the only way we're playing them for now as it is. ULM hates it, but that's the position they're in with Tech right now. That's not a slam at them, it's just that it takes two to play a football game. If they're so caught up in teaching Tech a lesson, give in and come to Ruston to challenge us. We're not coming to Monroe any time soon, sorry dude. I'm not the athletic director.
Posted by LSULM FAN
Frisco, Tx
Member since Feb 2004
549 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 8:15 pm to
Of the five I-A schools in Louisiana, which school has played all four other teams in the last five seasons and has some of them on future schedules?

LSU

Which of the five I-A schools in Louisiana has the most to lose and nothing to gain in playing these four other schools?

LSU

Why does LSU play these other teams?

They are not scared. They don't think they will lose. Although they know it may happen one day.

Why is it that the four other schools play each other fairly regularly (except ULL and Tulane), but the two I-A schools closest to each other in the state of Louisiana can't do what is best for both schools, fans, communities and renew what was once a great rivalry?

If LSU will play ULM, ULL, Tulane, and Tech, with no worries about "what if we lose", why can't Tech play ULM?

Why does Tech think they are in the same position as LSU in thinking they can play a one and done in Ruston against ULM, when Tech is clearly not in the class of LSU to make such a demand?

Makes me wonder, what are you scared of Tech? Although I know the answer.
Posted by Ktulu7
Member since Feb 2005
784 posts
Posted on 10/5/09 at 10:39 pm to
I think you misunderstand the situation. LSU has no problem letting Tech or ULL come to Baton Rouge for a game, but they'll NEVER go to Ruston/Shreveport or Monroe. It's the same with Tech. Tech would have no problem bringing ULM to Ruston, but they will not travel to Monroe.

Tech has been cool with renewing a one-and-one with ULM, but the first game MUST be in Ruston, and ULM wants the first game in Monroe. This is the sticking point, so don't deny it. ULM and Tech both know the first game out of those two would have way more attendance than the second one. Last time we did this experiment, Monroe was more blue than maroon. ULM doesn't bring many to Ruston either. It's like the LSU-Tulane series. It really doesn't do a hell of a lot for LSU, revenue/attendance-wise.
Posted by GoDawgs
Ruston
Member since Nov 2007
17 posts
Posted on 10/6/09 at 9:22 am to
The bottom line is really very simple.

What does Tech have to gain from a W against nlulm? Nothing.

What does Tech have to lose with an L? Everything.

Of course we're not going to play you. We'll just continue to widen the gap between our schools for the next 5-10 years and then we'll schedule you for homecoming just to drive the point home.

Incidentally... who didn't fulfill their end of the deal last time we had a home/home contract? Last I heard nlulm still owes us.

Looks like your word is just as good as your 1A record.

Now that that's out of the way... Why don't you nlulm homers just come over to Ruston? You're more than welcome and the game atmosphere is great. You've got a real opportunity to be a part of something great happening in North La. Don't buy into that delusional stuff that your paper keeps printing... we're moving on with or without.
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 10/6/09 at 10:00 am to
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What does Tech have to lose with an L? Everything.


I don't think Tech would lose anything if we lost to ULM. Just like I don't think LSU would lose anything if they lost to Tech. It's just a more elite program than ULM.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 10/6/09 at 11:35 am to
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So XIV do you also think that LSU needs the Tulane game every year? Revive that old rivalary? Is it that LSU needs Tulane or does Tulane need the LSU game more? Do you like or want to continue this rivalry more than Alabama or Ole Miss?
Can Tech fans not read? This has been dealt with many times in this thread.

I hate that the Tulane rivalry has ended. While I can understand why the rivalry has ended, I wish it would continue.

I can't think of another rivalry one of whose members dropped off the map so much as the LSU/Tulane rivalry.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 10/6/09 at 11:40 am to
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Are we scared to play Tulane because we dropped the annual series??? Try to use some logic when you post please
LSU = elite. Tulane = bottomfeeder.

Tech = bottomfeeder. ULM = bottomfeeder.

Try to use some logic when you post please.

LSU doesn't go home/home with Tulane because LSU is significantly bigger than Tulane. Tech doesn't go home/home with ULM because Tech thinks that they're significantly bigger than ULM.

Tech.
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