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re: Tech/ULM football series

Posted on 8/25/09 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by Sidis
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Posted on 8/25/09 at 3:51 pm to
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Is it really just LA TECH????


Louisiana Tech University
not like Georgia Institute of Technology


It's not Louisiana Technology University or Louisiana Institute of Technology? Why?

Oh well, it's not like we all didn't already know that La. Tech (3rd Tier) is on the "Texas Tech (also just "Tech"/3rd Tier) side" of the spectrum...

...looking enviously down at Ga. Tech.(#35), Va. Tech(#71), Cal Tech(#4), and of course MIT(#4) (all use "Technology"). 2010 U.S. News & World Report Rankings
This post was edited on 8/25/09 at 4:28 pm
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 3:53 pm to
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Does NLU ever play grambling? That would put fannies in the seats
(Don't know if you're joking.)

They played last season, I believe, and it set a Malone Stadium attendance record.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102303 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 3:54 pm to
Louisiana Tech was first instituted as the Industrial Institute and College of Louisiana in 1894, then as Louisiana Polytechnic Institute in 1921, and finally as Louisiana Tech University in 1970.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24806 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 3:54 pm to
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and finally as Louisiana Tech University in 1970.



Posted by barney fife
Rayville, LA
Member since Aug 2009
10 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 4:18 pm to
bullshite, Turbo. NLU won 9 of 12 from 1978 to 1989. LINK

Tech then spanked NLU twice and pussed out of the series. They then proceeded to suck donkey balls for four years, during which NLU was consistently a top ten 1AA team. Plain and simple, Tech didn't want to lose repeatedly to a 1AA team.

"Then NLU moves up and has a better 1A record than Tech for three years. Tech finally felt comfortable resuming the series once they were decent again (under Crowton).

No two ways about it; they're a bunch of pussies. And the only way to prove me wrong is on the field. First at the Joe, then at the Jim. There's no other way." - xiv

Man, you are wrong. Northeast did not win 9/12 games between 78-89. Tech bought out the last game of the series because they were playing 1A and Northeast was not. That game was scheduled to be played in Monroe and it is totally reasonable that a 1A team would not play a 1AA on the road. Those are facts. Actually, Tech won in '88, '89, '90 and '91 and then won every game between the schools since then. I beleive those were '97-'01, but I'm not sure. I do know the series was resumed as soon as possible after Northeast moved to 1A, but it took a few years due to scheduling conflicts. Northeast did not support the series upon its renewal and a business decision was made to not renew at that time. You can say Tech was scared, yada, yada, yada, but the facts are that Tech moved in a different direction in an attempt to improve. You can argue whatever you want but those are the facts. You can argue Tech's success however you choose but you can't logically defend a stance that an institution shouldn't try to improve. Tech offerred to play ULM but ULM refused. Had ULM accepted and actually support the game, maybe a home/home arrangement would be made. Based on ULM's lack of support the last series, it is reasonable that in today's financial landscape, neither school can afford a home/home OOC series that is not supported. Apparently, ULM lacks the confidence that their fans will support a game and is unwilling to do what is necessary to show a resumption of the series would be financially beneficial to both parties.
Posted by barney fife
Rayville, LA
Member since Aug 2009
10 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 4:25 pm to
It was Louisiana Polytechnic Institute and was renamed Louisiana Tech University in the '60s I beleive. It has always been called Louisiana Tech even though that was not its correct name (much like Georgia Tech).

Tech was founded as a four year engineering college in 1894.
Posted by UTVolCountry
Music City
Member since Jun 2008
2485 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 5:36 pm to
We have Louisiana Tech in the Blue corner and Louisiana-Monroe in the Red corner.

LETS GET IT ON!!!
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 5:44 pm to
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Man, you are wrong. Northeast did not win 9/12 games between 78-89
Yes they did. Check out the link.
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You can say Tech was scared, yada, yada, yada, but the facts are that Tech moved in a different direction in an attempt to improve.
If you and I fight 12 times, and you win 9 out of 12, and then you challenge me to another fight, and I run away, I'm going in a different direction.

Tech. Is. Scared.

While some of your story is factually correct, the fact now is that Tech is afraid of a consistent home/away with its two historically most significant FBS rivals (ULL/ULM). Why? A combination of elitism fueled by the fear of not being quite as big and bad as they'd hoped.

When Tech went 1A, I'm sure they had bowl games and conference titles in mind, and even a consistent top 25 program. After a few 77-0 losses, some still believe it's actually going to happen. It isn't. Tech simply doesn't know their place, and that place is at Malone Stadium once every two years.
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Based on ULM's lack of support the last series,
bullshite point. The only time a significant amount of people didn't show up for that game was when they were a combined 3-17 going into the game. If the teams are mediocre, there will be at least 25,000 at the game. You can bank on that.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8959 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 6:09 pm to
Ok, from the time that ULM joined D1-A, list every season they were over .500.

GO!

Point being. Why would La Tech schedule ULM if they don't need to. I mean, ULM has to play games vs. Arky in Little Rock, then forfeit the gate just to stay in D1 attendance levels. I don't exactly see anyone willing to play ULM in a home and home. Much less an SEC home/home like the one LT got.

ULM though they have a nice field turf at their stadium, is a nobody, that no one outside of Louisiana cares/knows about. La Tech, though not great by any stretch of the imagination, is a better known quantity outside of La.

ETA- LSU will play ULL, Tulane and LT yet even they don't want any of ULM's stank!
This post was edited on 8/25/09 at 6:10 pm
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 6:29 pm to
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Why would La Tech schedule ULM if they don't need to.
Georgia doesn't need to schedule Georgia Tech. Clemson doesn't need to schedule South Carolina. Notre Dame doesn't need to schedule Southern California. Lehigh doesn't have to schedule Lafayette. William & Mary doesn't need to schedule Richmond. etc etc etc...

Why would La Tech refuse a home/home with ULM if they don't need to?

Fear. Elitism.
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I don't exactly see anyone willing to play ULM in a home and home. Much less an SEC home/home like the one LT got.
Minnesota?
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ULM though they have a nice field turf at their stadium, is a nobody, that no one outside of Louisiana cares/knows about. La Tech, though not great by any stretch of the imagination, is a better known quantity outside of La.
Really. Really? The man with a 2" penis just made fun of the man with a 1.5" penis.
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ETA- LSU will play ULL, Tulane and LT yet even they don't want any of ULM's stank!
That point is just about as good as this one: LSU has played two home games in Monroe, on ULM's campus. How many games on LT's campus has LSU ever played?

One shitty point deserves another. And LSU has played ULM anyway.

Tech = Pussies!
Posted by LSULM FAN
Frisco, Tx
Member since Feb 2004
549 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 6:30 pm to
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ETA- LSU will play ULL, Tulane and LT yet even they don't want any of ULM's stank!


Not sure if this statement is true. Sounds good to you I guess. I'm pretty sure if you go look back at the scores since LSU started playing the state schools in 2001 (I think), ULM probably played them the best. In 2003 I believe it was like 42-7, but only 14-0 at the half. Much better than LTU or ULL has done.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 6:34 pm to
FYI, the series is split since 1978. It's 9-9. Sounds like somebody backed out at exactly the right time! Smart move, Tech.
Posted by LSULM FAN
Frisco, Tx
Member since Feb 2004
549 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 6:47 pm to
To all the LTU fans and others supporting their case:

Have you ever heard the expression, Perception is Real.

My point is people believe what they believe not matter what the facts are. The perception to many ULM fans and others is that LTU has an elitist attitude and thinks they are too good to play ULM.

Every year my dad brings up something he read in The News-star (Monroe Paper) in the early 90s, where one of the football players made a statement like, "We're going to work on our swagger this week." Or something like that. That maybe doesn't sound bad to some of you, but when you add it to all of the other BS that comes from LTU, it starts to get old.
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 7:26 pm to
Louisiana Tech saying "We're better than you" to ULM is like one midget saying "I'm taller than you" to a slightly shorter midget. Nobody cares unless they fight each other.

Get on the field, Tech! No crafty business deals. One year at the Joe, one at the Jim. Rinse and repeat. Nobody gives a shite about your program, and they never will. Treat the fans to what they want.
Posted by LSUFanNTX
Seabrook, TX
Member since May 2005
9108 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 7:32 pm to
If Tech doesn't want to come to Monroe, restart the old State Fair Game. Independence Stadium should hold all of those Tech fans.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8959 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 7:45 pm to
Ah didn't realize LSU beat ULM in 2003.

Fact of the matter is that both La Tech and ULm are national after thoughts. However ULM is laughable because it's administration, both academic and athletic have no plan and no direction. Plus Charlie Weatherbie is a freaking joke.

I don't have a connection to LT, but I think that the ULM fans are delusional if they feel that they matter. LT doesn't need ULM. They are a 500+ team that plays in bowl games (google it if you are unfamiliar with the concept).

Oh yea, answer my original question.

LIST THE .500+ SEASONS ULM HAS HAD SINCE PLAYING D1-A
This post was edited on 8/25/09 at 7:46 pm
Posted by LSUFanNTX
Seabrook, TX
Member since May 2005
9108 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 7:51 pm to
LIST THE .500+ SEASONS ULM HAS HAD SINCE PLAYING D1-A


2007 ULM was 6-6
Posted by DawgyDog
RUSTON
Member since Apr 2008
280 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 9:50 pm to
6-6 does not make .500+
Posted by LSULM FAN
Frisco, Tx
Member since Feb 2004
549 posts
Posted on 8/25/09 at 10:08 pm to
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Fact of the matter is that both La Tech and ULm are national after thoughts.


I agree with you here. But this topic has nothing to do with national perceptions. It is about the 35 mile distance from ULM to LTU and the fans of both schools.

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However ULM is laughable because it's administration, both academic and athletic have no plan and no direction. Plus Charlie Weatherbie is a freaking joke.


100% agree with you here too, except for the academic part. The admin IMO is the single biggest factor holding ULM Athletics back. No plan whatsoever. Charlie will most likely be gone after this year. A winning season and bowl birth probably won't save him. It's his final year on contract and he's been working for next to nothing most of the time he's been there.

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ULM fans are delusional if they feel that they matter


No delusion here. I know exactly where we are and where we will continue to head if serious changes in staff and philosophy aren't made.

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LT doesn't need ULM.


It may not seem that way because LTU is coming off a winning season and bowl win, but that is not the norm in Ruston as much as they would like you to believe. Both schools need each other more than anyone will admit, especially in Ruston.
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 8/26/09 at 6:26 am to
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Every year my dad brings up something he read in The News-star (Monroe Paper) in the early 90s


WTF?
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