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JBM210
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Targeting and Intentional Grounding
Two of the worst called penalties both in the NFL and college. As far as intentional grounding is concerned, as long as your are outside the tackle box, you can through the ball into the 57th row and there won’t be a penalty. There should have to have a receiver in the area for this to not be called. Targeting should be called pretty much when you launch your body. You can still call unsportsmanlike for helmet to helmet.


mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
My issue with targeting (despite it being a totally extremely arbitrarily called subjective rule and always from some nerd in the booth upstairs) is that they call it...when no penalty was called on the field.

And why isn't a 15 yard penalty enough? Why do you have to eject the guy?

Besides fighting and throwing punches, it's the only personal foul penalty that carries the penalty of ejection. It's absurd. Let them play, the other team got 15 yards, lets move on. The player didn't punch him in the gut and piss on his opponent's helmet.

Frankly it's just a rule so we can all feel better about ourselves watching an inherently violent sport. Players are still banging heads; targeting rules don't make the sport safe...helmet to helmet crown hits happen on every running play.
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SeeeeK
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
intentional grounding should come down to 1 basic rule:

If the ball hits at or beyond the line of scrimmage, it's incomplete. If it doesnt make it to LOS, then throw the flag.




mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
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If the ball hits at or beyond the line of scrimmage, it's incomplete


So you're down with Tom Brady under severe pressure just throwing the ball 50 yards down the field to nobody?...Just a big empty space on the field?

That's the same as airmailing it out of bounds.

When there's no threat of INT, why isn't it grounding?
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SeeeeK
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
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So you're down with Tom Brady under severe pressure just throwing the ball 50 yards down the field to nobody?...Just a big empty space on the field? That's the same as airmailing it out of bounds. When there's no threat of INT, why isn't it grounding?


Because your leaving it to the officials to make the correct call.

You have 1 rule, and it's INC or 15 yards, there are no arguments, no questions, it's all written out.

Leave it to the bozos on the field, and it's NEVER called the same.


VADawg
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
My issue with targeting is that the defensive player can do everything by the book, but if the offensive player ducks his head at the last second, the defender is screwed.


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Jcorye1
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
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There should have to have a receiver in the area for this to not be called.


Why? I like it how it is.


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dcrews
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
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If the ball hits at or beyond the line of scrimmage, it's incomplete. If it doesnt make it to LOS, then throw the flag.


What about spiking the ball to stop the clock?


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TexasTiger1185
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Member since Sep 2011
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
I don’t think intentional grounding should be a penalty at all. You’re allowed to spike it, you’re allowed to kneel it, you’re allowed to slide, why can’t you throw it away?


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Diseasefreeforall
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
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Because your leaving it to the officials to make the correct call.

You have 1 rule, and it's INC or 15 yards, there are no arguments, no questions, it's all written out.

Leave it to the bozos on the field, and it's NEVER called the same.



He deserved the safety.


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medtiger
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re: Targeting and Intentional Grounding
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the defensive player can do everything by the book, but if the offensive player ducks his head at the last second, the defender is screwed.



Not if his face is up looking at the target he's trying to tackle. Unless the defender is doing this, he's not doing "everything by the book."
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