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Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:37 am to UnluckyTiger
Was leading the league in receptions before he was hurt last year. He with one leg is better than what the Pats had.
Now let's get a Allen or Lokett on the cheap.
Now let's get a Allen or Lokett on the cheap.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:42 am to lsuman25
He fricked Cardi B raw while she was pregnant. He needs to be put down.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:07 am to TT9
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Was leading the league in receptions before he was hurt last year. He with one leg is better than what the Pats had.
The article I read said he was 7th but I get your point.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:10 am to lsuman25
Total $$ of contracts mean nothing. It’s 100% about the guaranteed money. Even then he will be hindered next year due to his ACL. Imo, this was a waste.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:10 pm to lsuman25
Another in decline athlete being paid stupid money. So many it's sick. Fans pay for this.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:14 pm to Poboytom
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Another in decline athlete being paid stupid money. So many it's sick. Fans pay for this.
As a fan you would rather teams not spend money to make the product better for said fans?
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:21 pm to wildtigercat93
He looked fine as a possession/slot guy before he got hurt with someone else able to stretch the field for him. Did not look explosive at all (pre injury). New England had to get someone but their fans should be incredibly disappointed with this outcome
He’s not just gonna play out the other two years if he lives up to the price tag this year. It’s a one year deal
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Only 26mil guaranteed for 3 years at a premium position for a team with plenty of cap space.
He’s not just gonna play out the other two years if he lives up to the price tag this year. It’s a one year deal
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:51 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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New England had to get someone but their fans should be incredibly disappointed with this outcome
I truly don’t understand how this makes sense
pats have literally no better options, this is a very cheap deal relative to the market and the pats could’ve burned the money on fire and it wouldn’t have effected their ability to compete or their cap space. I get I’m more optimistic about this than most in this thread, but why would anyone be disappointed with this outcome in comparison to just doing nothing but running back the same weapons last year?
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He’s not just gonna play out the other two years if he lives up to the price tag this year. It’s a one year deal
That just highlights my point more. It’s very team friendly and can get nuked the moment it goes sideways.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:19 pm to wildtigercat93
I believe one of those prove to us you still have it for a lot less and pay him next year contracts is appropriate here. Saints over paid Carr. Jesus he's not worth it either.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:20 pm to wildtigercat93
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pats have literally no better options, this is a very cheap deal relative to the market and the pats could’ve burned the money on fire and it wouldn’t have effected their ability to compete or their cap space.
They don’t have options now, assuming there isn’t a trade opportunity we are unaware of. There were without a doubt better opportunities they did not land
He is very limited at this stage unless he has some miraculous resurgence. He looked like an okay number 2 pre injury, and it was obvious he was taking a one year deal. You’re acting like it’s some coup.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:31 pm to lsuman25
I don't particularly like the guy, but he's better than anything else the Patriots have. Boutte can start being the mid-tier WR2 he was always destined to be.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:34 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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They don’t have options now, assuming there isn’t a trade opportunity we are unaware of. There were without a doubt better opportunities they did not land
Yeah I get there are better WRs in the NFL, but the list of ones better than him that are freely available in FA is slim to none and spending draft capital and a fat contract on a different vet for a rebuilding team only makes sense if that guy is a no brainer playmaker and wants to come to NE, which the pat’s swing and whiffed on a few of those options this year. so they signed Diggs in the second wave of FA on a prove it deal to hopefully fill a massive need. There’s no real opportunity loss here.
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He is very limited at this stage unless he has some miraculous resurgence. He looked like an okay number 2 pre injury, and it was obvious he was taking a one year deal.
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You’re acting like it’s some coup.
Quite literally my first post in this thread says “yes it is an injury risk and yes it is an over pay”. There’s a gulf of room between being excited as a fan for the potential of this signing and thinking it was a Randy Moss level move. I understand it’s a low risk high reward deal. I also understand that if Stefan Diggs was still his prime self, he would’ve have been sitting there in the second wave of Free Agency and wouldn’t have been interested in playing for a rebuilding team.
Pats came in to the offseason with an ungodly amount of cap space, spent more than anyone else, then still has by far the most cap space after those moves with very little current capital on the roster that are long term pieces that they need to plan for future. They needed to give Maye weapons and this is a high upside bet to do so. The money quite literally has to go somewhere.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:54 pm to wildtigercat93
The issue is
The deal on its own is fine but Diggs being the biggest difference maker to add as support for a talented young QB with the cap space they had is brutal
They spent a whole bunch of money on:
An interior DL
Two guys coming off major injuries who’s best ball is clearly behind them (Landry and Diggs)
A swing tackle
An okay number two corner who’s never played a full year
The window with that kind of cap space closes fast and I think they did a horrible job surrounding Maye with more talent and setting him up for success. Gonna be highly dependent on nailing several draft picks
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the pat’s swing and whiffed on a few of those options this year
The deal on its own is fine but Diggs being the biggest difference maker to add as support for a talented young QB with the cap space they had is brutal
They spent a whole bunch of money on:
An interior DL
Two guys coming off major injuries who’s best ball is clearly behind them (Landry and Diggs)
A swing tackle
An okay number two corner who’s never played a full year
The window with that kind of cap space closes fast and I think they did a horrible job surrounding Maye with more talent and setting him up for success. Gonna be highly dependent on nailing several draft picks
Posted on 3/26/25 at 6:54 pm to lsuman25
Shocked he went to the Patriots.
Texans will win more than the Patriots guess it was all about the money
Texans will win more than the Patriots guess it was all about the money
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:08 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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The deal on its own is fine but Diggs being the biggest difference maker to add as support for a talented young QB with the cap space they had is brutal
Okay so the solution you’re offering instead is to bring in no support for the young QB?
They can’t make teams trade them good WRs and they can’t make good WRs sign there. The options are limited. That’s obviously an issue. I just don’t understand why you think that somehow makes this deal bad in any sort of way. You’re making two separate points and saying they are correlated
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They spent a whole bunch of money on: An interior DL Two guys coming off major injuries who’s best ball is clearly behind them (Landry and Diggs) A swing tackle An okay number two corner who’s never played a full year The window with that kind of cap space closes fast and I think they did a horrible job surrounding Maye with more talent and setting him up for success. Gonna be highly dependent on nailing several draft picks
Again you’re having a completely different conversation but the FA market was awful, and will continue to be awful as teams have money to keep their own players. Every teams success is going to be highly dependent on draft picks. They offered way above market and most of the top guys at the main positions of need (tackle and WR) never hit the market at all.
The window on that level of cap space only closes when you hit on the right picks and have a roster worth betting the farm on veterans and have to resign your core. The pats were never going to be in a position to go all in on the roster in year 2 of Drake Maye. The cuppboard was entirely bare and they whiffed on the draft outside of Maye last year to compound the issue.
A few of you are imagining me post grand delusions of the pats being in the superbowl in this thread, I ask that you reread through my posts and try to find where that actually exists because the most positive thing I’ve posted in here was “Hell yes” and then a bunch of qualifiers after.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:18 pm to wildtigercat93
I’m not reading all that but zero reason for them to not top Washington’s offer for Tunsil, for instance
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:51 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I’m not reading all that
Well yeah it’s becoming more clear you aren’t reading anything I’m posting and just imagining the argument you’d rather have
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zero reason for them to not top Washington’s offer for Tunsil, for instance
Yeah I totally wish they would’ve done that. I’m not sure if tunsil would’ve been interested in coming to NE, but if that option was on the table then I agree we absolutely should have done it
I’m confused what that has to do with them signing Stefan Diggs to what you have already admitted is a pretty middling contract in the market a half month after Tunsil had already been traded.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 7:52 pm to lsuman25
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$69 million deal
Nice.
Posted on 3/26/25 at 8:11 pm to wildtigercat93
I’ve never thought “hell yes” when my team has signed the leftover scraps in free agency
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