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So what happens to the Big 6 Bowls?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:18 am
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:18 am
I know most bowls are useless other than extra practices and a fun scrimmage for the teams against an unusual opponent but I do really love the traditional bowl games. The Rose, Sugar, Peach, Cotton, Fiesta, and Orange bowls. I assume they'll try and keep them in the semi final rotation. Maybe also the quarter final rotation now that those look poised for New Years Eve?
But what happens to the games that aren't in the playoff rotation? They're forced to take at best the 13th ranked team and then down the line? Or maybe do they do a system where if you lose in an early wild card round your consolation is getting to play in one of the big bowls. That way the big bowls keep a big time matchup?
Saying that out loud now though seems bad because the enthusiasm for that will be absolutely rock bottom. So I guess is this the end for even the big bowl games?
But what happens to the games that aren't in the playoff rotation? They're forced to take at best the 13th ranked team and then down the line? Or maybe do they do a system where if you lose in an early wild card round your consolation is getting to play in one of the big bowls. That way the big bowls keep a big time matchup?
Saying that out loud now though seems bad because the enthusiasm for that will be absolutely rock bottom. So I guess is this the end for even the big bowl games?
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:19 am to jlovel7
Won't four of them be the quarterfinals, then two be the semifinals?
Championship game will be bid on and played in a big dome stadium like it has been the last 7 years.
Championship game will be bid on and played in a big dome stadium like it has been the last 7 years.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:20 am to Eat Your Crow
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Won't four of them be the quarterfinals, then two be the semifinals?
Championship game will be bid on and played in a big dome stadium like it has been the last 7 years.
Exactly this…why would it be any different?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:22 am to Eat Your Crow
For the sake of college football...lets hope the bowl system is gone entirely!!! 12 teams make the post season...and 12 only. Then we will see if the "regular season" people are still chanting that.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:22 am to jlovel7
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So I guess is this the end for even the big bowl games?
Those bowls have already lost a ton of prestige since the implementation of the CFP.
We never should have created a playoff, but now that we have there’s no getting the genie back in the bottle. This was always going to happen and will happen again, too much money to be made. Though I do think when they get to 16 they’ll stop there for a few decades. I could see 24 in my lifetime though.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
Going straight to 12 instead of 8 makes no sense.
8 would be the perfect number. Best 6 conference champions, and two at-large.
8 would be the perfect number. Best 6 conference champions, and two at-large.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:25 am to Eat Your Crow
quote:This also makes sense as to why only the first 4 games will be played at home. It's because they are saving the next 4 quarterfinal games, and the 2 semifinal games for the bowls.
Won't four of them be the quarterfinals, then two be the semifinals?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:26 am to Epic Cajun
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Exactly this…why would it be any different?
The attendance for those first four games is going to be horrible.
It might be pretty good the first year or two like the Semis were just for the excitement and the freshness but it is going to go downhill quickly in my opinion. The semis now are half empty. Especially when both fanbases have to travel back to back to back on one weeks notice at a time.
At least in pro sports except for the super bowl one team is always at home so that helps fans make arrangements on quick notice as they're usually mostly already in town.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:27 am to Eat Your Crow
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Going straight to 12 instead of 8 makes no sense.
SEC didn’t want a situation where 6 of the 8 are auto qualifiers and you end up with Utah and UCF in the playoff with a combined 1 quality win while a 10-2 SEC team with 4 quality wins is sitting at home.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:27 am to Eat Your Crow
I said this last night in another thread.
With the way that it's set up, it's basically an 8 team playoff, but seeds 5-8 have a mini play-in tournament with seeds 9-12, so that there are fewer arguments over who should've made the 8 team tournament.
With the way that it's set up, it's basically an 8 team playoff, but seeds 5-8 have a mini play-in tournament with seeds 9-12, so that there are fewer arguments over who should've made the 8 team tournament.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:31 am to jlovel7
This was always going to be the situation if they went to an 8 team tournament. There is a struggle between the pageantry and history of the bowl games, and the logistics of traveling for 3 games in a row if your team makes the championship.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:33 am to Buckeye Backer
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For the sake of college football...lets hope the bowl system is gone entirely!!! 12 teams make the post season...and 12 only. Then we will see if the "regular season" people are still chanting that.
One thing they can do to throw a lifeline to bowls is to create a "NIT" type consolation tournament for something like the next 16 teams to have something to play for.
with the 12 teams going to the big show, that gives a total of 28 teams getting a tournament which would cover the entire top 25 plus 3 at large bids.
I would watch that.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:35 am to jlovel7
quote:Are you using the figures from last years semi-final games? While a "pandemic" was going on?
The semis now are half empty.
Both semi-final games were full capacity the year before.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
SEC would have still gotten 2 every year if it were 8 teams.
The Big Ten wouldn't get 2 nearly as often as the SEC under an 8-team format.
With a 12 team format? They'd get probably the same amount of teams as the SEC. That's why it's going to 12. Because of the Big Ten.
The Big Ten wouldn't get 2 nearly as often as the SEC under an 8-team format.
With a 12 team format? They'd get probably the same amount of teams as the SEC. That's why it's going to 12. Because of the Big Ten.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
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We never should have created a playoff
Yall traditionalists are a sad bunch
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:55 am to jlovel7
Most of the bowl games added in the last 15+ years (Gasparilla, Armed Forces, Famous Potato, etc.) are owned by ESPN.
I don’t care what happens to those games. Some might survive because they pull a lot of teams from G5 conferences. A second place finish in the Sun Belt or Conference USA should be rewarded with a bowl game.
I don’t know how the second tier traditional bowl games like the Sun, Liberty, and Gator bowl survive. It might take a miracle for the Independence Bowl to survive another 5 years.
I don’t care what happens to those games. Some might survive because they pull a lot of teams from G5 conferences. A second place finish in the Sun Belt or Conference USA should be rewarded with a bowl game.
I don’t know how the second tier traditional bowl games like the Sun, Liberty, and Gator bowl survive. It might take a miracle for the Independence Bowl to survive another 5 years.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:03 am to Epic Cajun
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Are you using the figures from last years semi-final games? While a "pandemic" was going on?
Both semi-final games were full capacity the year before.
They were not. I was at the Oklahoma LSU game in Atlanta and it was absolutely not a packed house.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:09 am to jlovel7
Well, it was “officially” sold out, so I’m not sure how we’d get the actual attendance figures versus the paid attendance.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:10 am to Epic Cajun
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Well, it was “officially” sold out, so I’m not sure how we’d get the actual attendance figures versus the paid attendance.
They’ll always “sell out” but I’m telling y’all the games are a slog to get to as it is back to back on short notice.
Making it 3 games back to back to back all neutral sites with one week notice is going to flop. But it’ll make tv dollars for a while.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:43 am to Ghost of Colby
I assume the big non-NY6 bowls will still field good games. Alamo, Citrus, Outback, Gator can still get similar matchups to what they’ve been getting. Those games are still in desirable locations, and the extra practice time is always a plus for the types of teams that will be in those games.
Schools in the MAC, Sun Belt, etc will still want to go bowling. Their chances of getting a playoff team are slim to none even with 12 teams.
Schools in the MAC, Sun Belt, etc will still want to go bowling. Their chances of getting a playoff team are slim to none even with 12 teams.
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