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re: So sick of the ESPN hypocrisy
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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i don' see what lewis has to do with this at all anyway
ESPN's moral superiority when asking for a college coach to be fired, but they have no moral obligation when hiring their employees.
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there is a stronger argument with knight
Yes, yes it is
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but it's still short
No, no it's not.
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this is actual journalism ESPN does and they're criticized for it. they can't win with you people
Because they are hypocritcal and they randomly pick and choose which topics they deem necessary to show their outrage. (See Les Miles drilled for oversigning while they look away at Nick Saban being a far worse offender)
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:03 am to tigerpimpbot
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Did Disney buy up or heavily invest in twitter? ESPN is now the worldwide trender in sports.
right now the market really gives a frick about twitter, so they're giving the market what it wants
ESPN is just serving its audience
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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ESPN is just serving its audience
yup because I want to know what Rosie O'Donnell thinks about a coach calling a kid gay
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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they investigate allegations that a coach is being ridiculous to his players. they interview people and get a video showing this. they interview people with the program and get their statements. what about this isn't journalism?
How many tweets did they show in support of the coach? How many positive statements about the coach did they air? I have read some today, but not from ESPN. They wanted the guy fired and they weren't going to stop airing the topic until he was fired.
Real journalism is not slanted in such a way to only frame the issue as one-sided. They cut up 3 years worth of "incidents" and made it look like one practice.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:06 am to Choupique19
So you approve of this coaches behavior?
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:06 am to Choupique19
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ESPN's moral superiority when asking for a college coach to be fired, but they have no moral obligation when hiring their employees.
did ESPN not cover his story originally or something? did they not bring it up during the SB run?
they didn't hire lewis for moral reaosns; they hired him for ratings. one has nothing to do with the other. they did their duty during his trial (and after the trial)
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Because they are hypocritcal and they randomly pick and choose which topics they deem necessary to show their outrage. (See Les Miles drilled for oversigning while they look away at Nick Saban being a far worse offender)
while it may be true, that has nothing to do with this topic. it's a huge reach
the biggest reason why it was easy to criticize les was that we had a former player bitching about it. and we just had the porter saga that left egg on LSU's face. it was a timing thing
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:08 am to Choupique19
I can't stand when a team or school fires a guy solely because of media pressure. Take a stance of your own and stick with it, just once
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 11:19 am
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:08 am to Choupique19
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How many tweets did they show in support of the coach?
how many were there?
they did let the AD have a chance to support/defend the decisions
i want to see bobby knight interview rice
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:09 am to shel311
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I can't stand when a team or school fires a guy
solely because of media pressure.
Take a stance of your own and stick with it, just
once.
This right here
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:09 am to SDVTiger
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So you approve of this coaches behavior?
I think the punishment should be left up to Rutgers University to decide. They decided to suspend him for 3 games, and fine him $50,000. ESPN decided that this was not punishment enough and made it a headline story for 24 hours and threatened to beat the drum on this for an extended period of time until the guy was fired.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:10 am to SlowFlowPro
don't even bring up how they handled the Mike Leach story...very similar to this
got one side, only interviewed people from one side and hammered the story until the public outrage reached a level that basically forced the school to act
then the general public will latch on to the next thing to be "outraged" about and the whole story will be gone by next week
got one side, only interviewed people from one side and hammered the story until the public outrage reached a level that basically forced the school to act
then the general public will latch on to the next thing to be "outraged" about and the whole story will be gone by next week
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 11:13 am
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:10 am to jimithing11
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Or how about ESPN could have just not lobbed softballs to being with?
Yes, but lacking a time machine, ESPN cannot go back in time and change their coverage of the Te'o story. Also, at the end of the day, who really cares about Te'o's fake girlfriend? It's not in the same ballpark as physically abusing players in your charge.
Of course ESPN is inconsistent. I'm highly critical of ESPN. But when they actually act like a news organization, I don't rip on them for it. I would prefer they always acted like they did with the Rutgers case. If I praise them now, it is more likely they do so in the future. I WANT them to behave like they did in this Rutgers story. I'd like more of this, not less.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:11 am to madcap
quote:crap you're too quick for me lol.
This right here
I deleted the post and put it in the other thread thinking it fit better there.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:11 am to madcap
quote:crap you're too quick for me lol.
This right here
I deleted the post and put it in the other thread thinking it fit better there.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:11 am to SDVTiger
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So you approve of this coaches behavior?
based on the tape, nope
but we didn't see it all
that'd be like if your boss took surveillance of you at work during a three-year period and edited it down to show all the footage of you jerking around on your computer instead of working.
It's a one-sided argument that included the statement "with all due respect" about 10 times
SJ at its finest
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:11 am to Choupique19
Its a shame....but isnt this some sort of double jeopardy rule? Guy was already given his punishment and now that it was nationally televised, he gets the ax. He may have a big lawsuit here.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:12 am to Choupique19
quote:I think the former coach's attorneys put the tape together and leaked it to ESPN.
They cut up 3 years worth of "incidents" and made it look like one practice.
I'm not anti ESPN and think they are mostly good for sports, but the blurred line between journalism, commentary and activism is a bit of a moral/ethical dance that they do that occasionally bothers me. Although, ESPN shouldn't be singled out for this as most media (especially tv and radio) are this way.
This post was edited on 4/3/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:12 am to Eighteen
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then the public will latch on to the next thing to be
"outraged" about and the whole story will be gone
by next week
Just wait if the Yankees get off to a slow start. What an unwatchable shitfest ESPN will be like it usually is.
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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the biggest reason why it was easy to criticize les was that we had a former player bitching about it.
A player that was not even good enough to start at the FCS level after he transferred. Thousands of players every year are not good enough to play at the FBS level of college football, does ESPN air all of their stories?
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and we just had the porter saga that left egg on LSU's face
And the kid was so scarred that he transferred back to LSU.
Meanwhile, the biggest offender of oversigning in the SEC is the guy a few doors down, but ESPN doesn't want to smear this guy's name. Not even when a kid shows up to high school in his Alabama hat ready to sign with the Tide until he gets a call that morning, "Um, not so fast."
This leads to the thread topic...
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ESPN hypocrisy
Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:14 am to Baloo
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But when they actually act like a news organization, I don't rip on them for it. I would prefer they always acted like they did with the Rutgers case. If I praise them now, it is more likely they do so in the future. I WANT them to behave like they did in this Rutgers story. I'd like more of this, not less.
my feelings exactly
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