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Shoulda Woulda Coulda Of NBA History (Very Long Read)

Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:49 pm
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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I'm trying to restart my writing career and love for in-depth sports writing instead of just posting in threads on here. I came up with this idea and decided to go with it. I hope you all enjoy it because I did put in some solid time on this and a decent bit of research for all of the names.

Even though the NBA season has come to an end, I needed to quench my thirst with a little more NBA talk . With the NBA Draft coming up, I came up with an idea that could start some good discussion and possible good/bad memories for some.

I thought about all of the players that just never quite did everything they could have in the league and I followed three criteria:

1. Players that never quite lived up to their potential (Shoulda)
2. Players that had their NBA careers tarnished by injuries/suspensions (Woulda)
3. Players that never got the chance to play in the NBA for various reasons or started their career later in the NBA (Coulda)

With that, I present my list and feel free to add your own players to this (because I obviously missed some, and being 26, I have a limited knowledge of earlier basketball) and I hope you appreciate this as much as I did writing this:

Acie Law: Acie etched his name into Texas A&M basketball lore with the number of clutch shots he had. He turned that success into being the 11th selection in the 2007 Draft, but never did much in the NBA for 7 seasons. He since moved onto the Euroleague, where he has helped Olympiacos to two straight championships.
Game Winner Vs. Texas (Yes, I was one of those rushing the court)

Adam Morrison: Co-National Player of the Year and big-time scorer at Gonzaga turned his scoring ability into the 3rd overall pick of the 2006 Draft. What came next was the bust that some people saw coming from it, where his rookie year was the only season he ever averaged double digits in points.
Heartbreak City (I always thought Mata, #14, on UCLA was the ugliest player ever until Noah came around)

Allan Houston: Allan has a weird way of thanking teams. After signing a maximum extension with the Knicks in 2001, knee injuries burdened him from 2003 on until his retirement from the league. Even despite not playing since 2005, Houston was the 2nd highest paid player for 2006-07, only behind Kevin Garnett. Not much for a Return on Investment for the Knicks.
Playoff Game Winner To Upset Heat
50 Point Game

Amare Stoudemire: For a few years in Phoenix, Amare was one of the more feared post players in the NBA. His size, athleticism and recently gained shooting touch made him tough to defend. Being the third wheel behind Nash and Marion got to him and he seeked an exit to the Knicks. Knee injuries have plagued him since his days in Phoenix and have only become much worse. At only 30, we should be watching him in his prime years, but are seeing a guy who can barely get on the court.
Highlights On The Suns (NSFW: Language in music)

Andrew Toney:The Boston Strangler always made life tough for the better teams in the NBA, primarily the Celtics, and was a key part to the 76ers 1983 title. Stress fractures in his feet cut his career short at only eight years in the league.
39 Points vs. Boston in 1982 Playoffs

Anfernee Hardaway: Oh what could have been. Penny was and still possibly is one of the rarest point guards to grace the league. At 6'7", Penny quickly took over at point guard and made a scary duo with a young Shaq. Contract quarrels with the two caused Shaq to leave, and a knee injury in 1997 basically spelled the end to Penny. He continued "playing" until the 2007-08 season, but was never close to what he once was.
Career Highlights

Arvydas Sabonis: The 31-year-old NBA rookie was a world phenom during his younger years. First drafted in 1985, Sabonis didn't make his NBA debut until 10 years later, but leg injuries and over-usage in Russia never allowed him to show his potential in the NBA, despite averaging a double-double in the 1997-98 season.
Career Highlights

Ben Wallace: Yes, he was a 4-time Defensive Player of the Year, but Big Ben toiled away on the Bullets bench for 3 years to start his career after going undrafted and received decent minutes in Orland for a year. A smaller part of the Grant Hill trade was a blessing for Wallace as he was sent to Detroit from Orlando and began living up to his potential in 2000.
Highlights(NSFW: Language)

Benji Wilson: Another player that gained more recognition from an absolutely amazing 30 for 30 special (which I highly suggest if you haven't watched it). Obviously, Wilson never even got to play his senior season of high school basketball after being shot in a confrontation, but people who saw him knew what kind of talent he was. A 6'7" athlete that was called "Magic Johnson with a jump shot" by his high school coach, Wilson had all the potential in the world to be something more than the end result of his career.
Highlights

Bo Kimble: Southern Cal may hate George Raveling after seeing what he let go in Bo Kimble and Hank Gathers. The two became one of the best scoring duos in NCAA history at Loyola Marymount. The sudden and untimely death of Gathers shook Kimble, and despite being the 8th pick of the 1990 Draft, he could never shake what happened and injuries helped cut his NBA career very short.
Left-Handed Free Throw For Gathers

Bobby Hurley: The 1992 Final Four Most Outstanding Player of the Year, still holding the NCAA assists record with 1,076, was the 7th pick in the 1993 Draft. A serious car injury his rookie season played an integral role in cutting his career short.
Duke Highlights

Bracey Wright: Coming out of high school in The Colony, Texas, he was actually more higher-regarded than a teammate by the name of Deron Williams. Obviously, the end result switched hands, but Wright headed to Indiana, where he led the Big Ten in scoring in his junior season when he averaged 18.3 PPG. He left for the NBA after the season, dropped to a second round selection, and wound up appearing in only 26 NBA games. He has since gone overseas and has put together a successive career.
Game-Clinching Shot At Indiana (Hardly any videos of him)

Brandon Roy: A guy with knees made of glass, Roy showed star potential in the NBA with back-to-back solid seasons, but his troublesome knees never allowed him to continue those strong seasons and his career was over at the age of 28.
Career Highlights

Bryant Reeves: Big Country was an imposing force, named two-time Big Eight Player of the Year, and showed it for three seasons, even scoring 41 points as a career high. Weight problems and injuries in 1998 limited him to 3 solid years in the NBA and a career ending at 27.
Highlights
Backboard Shattering Dunk

Calbert Cheaney: Calbert was Mr. Everything at Indiana, three-time All-American and unanimo
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Frederic Weis: When you are primarily known for being dunked over by Vince Carter in the Olympics (Yes, we ALL remember that dunk), you are not off to a good start. However, Weis did have NBA potential beforehand when he was the 15th pick by the Knicks in the 1999 NBA Draft, angering the Knick faithful because hometown player Ron Artest was still available (Could you have imagined Artest home in New York?). His 7’2” 260 lb. frame intrigued NBA teams, but like Vazquez above him, he never made it over to the NBA. In the grand scheme of things, it might be a good thing for him when he could’ve become the next Shawn Bradley in terms of being posterized all the time.
You All Know The Dunk

God Shammgod: For those that watched college basketball in the mid-1990s saw a player with amazing dribbling and passing ability that put on a small show at the McDonald’s All-American Game before helping send Providence to the Elite Eight in 1997, where he put up 23 points again Mike Bibby in the loss. For those that weren’t around then, his NBA career only lasted 20 games, but his legacy lives on with his personal move, The Shammgod. For a guy that didn’t come close to a full NBA season, he has made a decent impact with players still trying to perfect his move.
McDonald's Highlights

Grant Hill: Before the “Kobe is the next Jordan” and “LeBron is the next Jordan” thought processes started up, there was someone else that was getting that claim well before those other two. A two-time NCAA Champion at Duke, Hill was the 3rd pick in the 1994 NBA Draft, only behind Glenn Robinson and Jason Kidd. Hill wasted no time in making his mark in the NBA, becoming co-Rookie of the Year and making three straight All-Star games. So why great NBA aficionado would he even be in this article? Hill suffered an ankle injury in the 2000 Playoffs and was constantly nagged by it the rest of his career. Despite the injury, he was still able to turn in a 19-year NBA career. Those who saw him in Detroit though know what could have been with the premier player.
Highlights

Greg Oden: With his name coming back up in free agency talks, now is as good a time to talk about him than any other right now. The 7’0” 285 lb. behemoth had legendary status written all over him when he went to Ohio State, where he helped send them all the way to the 2007 NCAA Championship game, where he had 25 points, 12 rebounds and 4 blocks in a losing effort to Florida. Oden became the first overall pick in the 2007 Draft and a microfracture surgery in September of that year became the first of many. Despite starting only 60 games in his two NBA seasons, he still showed the ability that he had but could never shake the injury/surgery bug. Oden is trying to make a comeback after not playing since the 2009-10 season, but still has teams lined up hoping he can return to form.
Highlights

Gus Johnson: No, not the always-excited sports announcer of NCAA Tourney fame. Honeycomb as he was nicknamed played above the rim before it was cool to do so. In his lone season at Idaho, he averaged 19 PPG and 20.3 RPG, yet was the 10th pick of the 2nd round in the 1963 NBA Draft. While he averaged 16.2 PPG and 12.1 RPG over his 10-year career, injuries hampered his potential to become even better and his ability was never fully appreciated at the time by fans. He was reported to have broken 3 backboards in his career and has the legendary story of the Corner Club nail.
Highlights (I highly suggest subscribing to his channel if you haven't. A ton of classic player highlights)


Hank Gathers: While already briefly discussed earlier above in Bo Kimble, Gathers deserves being in this a lot more than Kimble does. Gathers lit the NCAA world on fire when he used his strong 6’7” 210 lb. frame to lead the country in scoring with 32.7 PPG and rebounding with 13.7 RPG in the 1988-89 season. Gathers collapsed once before the fateful day on March 4, 1990, when he collapsed during the WCC quarterfinal and was declared shortly thereafter at the young age of 23. Hank would have more than likely been a high lottery pick in that Draft and anyone could guess what he would have done at the next level.
UNLV vs. LMU (Gathers, Larry Johnson, Stacey Augmon, Greg Anthony)

Harold Miner: Despite being known as the two-time NBA Dunk Contest champion, Miner was a big-time scorer during his days at USC, where he was named the College Basketball Player of the Year by Sports Illustrated, beating Christian Laettner and Shaquille O’Neal, after averaging 26.3 PPG and 7 RPG. He was taken with the 12th pick in the 1992 NBA Draft by the Heat, but never truly got the opportunity to get starting minutes, playing in only 200 games in his 4-year NBA career.
Highlights

Isaiah “J.R.” Rider: Like his dunking counterpart right above him here, J.R. continued the impressive lineage of premier athletes for the Runnin’ Rebels, averaging 29.1 PPG and 8.9 RPG in his sophomore season there. Rider became the 5th pick of the 1993 Draft by the Timberwolves and fared well through his 3 years in Minnesota and his first year in Portland. However, drug problems and other off-the-court issues played a part in ending his nine-year career at the age of only 30. He will always be remembered for The Eastbay Bay Funk, becoming the first person to go between his legs in a dunk to win the 1994 Slam Dunk Contest.
Highlights(NSFW: Language)
The East Bay Funk

Jamal Mashburn: Monster Mash started his NBA career off strong after being the 4th pick in the 1993 NBA Draft by the Mavericks, following a career at Kentucky that ended with being named the SEC Player of the Year. However, injuries quickly hampered his days in Dallas and he toiled around for awhile in Miami. He had a resurgence with the Hornets for two seasons, but the knee injuries struck again and he was out of the league by 31, never quite fully living out his potential All-Star career.
Highlights
50 Point Game 1
50 Point Game 2

James White: “Flight” White may be the best dunker to never win a significant dunk contest. Upset at the McDonald’s Dunk Contest by David Lee as a high school senior, White never made it in the NBA long enough to qualify for one, until the 2012-13 season with the Knicks. By then though, he was 30 years old and didn’t quite have the spring he had in his prime. He did average 16.3 PPG and 5.1 RPG in his senior year at Cincinnati. Also one more fun fact: White is actually an NBA Champion with the Spurs.
Dunk Highlights(Sorry for the music)
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Javaris Crittenton: High school teammate of Dwight Howard, Crittenton allured NBA teams with his 6’5” 200 lb. stature as a point guard. Javaris averaged 14.4 PPG and 5.8 APG for the Yellow Jackets and found a supporter in Coach Paul Hewitt for his leadership tendencies. However, that didn’t continue at the next level despite being the 19th selection of the Lakers in the 2007 Draft following only one season at Georgia Tech. Crittenton was on three teams in his two seasons and only saw 10 starts before making the news in negative fashion for his incident with then teammate Gilbert Arenas and a murder in 2011.
Game Highlights
Preseason Highlights

Jay Williams: The reason why athletes shouldn't ride motorcycles. Williams averaged 21+ PPG each of his last two seasons at Duke, along with averaging 6 APG over his collegiate career. He looked like he was going to be an All-Star point guard in the NBA as the Bulls selected him 2nd overall in the 2002 NBA Draft. Unfortunately, his NBA career would only last one season after a motorcycle crash in the off-season following his first season would sever a main nerve in his leg, fracture his pelvis and tore three ligaments in his knee. The Bulls waived him following the incident and he could never make it back.
Highlights

Joe Hammond: The Destroyer, nicknamed for what he did to opposing defenses at Rucker Park where he holds the record for 82 points in a game, could be argued as the best streetballer of all time and a good portion of followers would agree. Unfortunately, he thought the drug game on the streets was a financially-better option than playing in the NBA, where teams were looking at signing him only going off of his high school playing career. Following a few arrests, everything came down on Hammond and his name just became legend at Rucker.

John Wallace: An athletic 6’8” small forward, Wallace watched his numbers steadily increase during his four years at Syracuse, averaging 22.2 PPG and 8.7 RPG and concluding his college career with a loss in the 1996 NCAA Championship. The 18th pick in the 1996 NBA Draft by your New York Knicks, Wallace picked up some frequent flyer miles, playing for 5 different teams in his 7 year career, eclipsed by 14.0 PPG for the Raptors in the 1997-98 season.
John Wallace Selected

Jonathan Bender: One of my favorite prospects to ever come into the NBA, Bender was a 7’0” small forward with great athleticism for his size and oozed potential. Scoring 31 points in the McDonald’s All-American game, Bender surpassed Michael Jordan’s mark and still holds the record. After being the 5th pick in the 1999 NBA Draft, Bender also became the first high school draftee to score in the double digits in his debut game, scoring 10 points in 13 minutes. Chronic knee problems from an abnormal growth spurt earlier in his life allowed him to never play a full season and ended his 7-year career before a 25-game comeback with the Knicks. He has since used his entrepreneurial ability to help others, creating Jonathan Bender Enterprises to help Louisiana victims following Hurricane Katrina.
Highlights

Korleone Young: One of the first “He should have went to college” high schoolers, Young left for the NBA after his time at Hargrave, only to drop to the 40th pick in the 1999 NBA Draft. His NBA career lasted a total of 3 games and 15 minutes of game time due to a regressive injury. Young bounced around and found some success in the IBL and CBA, but even those hopes quickly faded after more injuries.
1998 McDonald's Dunk Contest (Stromile Swift also in this for LSU fans)

Kwame Brown: The much-hyped and top high school prospect over Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry said the Wizards “wouldn’t regret it” if they took him with the first pick in the 2001 NBA Draft. The Wizards did and quickly feel into a feeling of deep regret. Kwame’s stone hands proved to be cumbersome and his third season in the NBA was the only time he averaged double digit points and over 7 RPG. Despite the quick fall from grace, the stone-handed bust continues to find work, playing in 22 games last season with the 76ers. It would be the first mistake of many from team president Michael Jordan.
Highlights (Sorry for crappy song)

LaPhonso Ellis: Ellis was a much-hyper prospect throughout his young career, being named a McDonald’s All-American. He then headed to Notre Dame for four years, averaging 17.7 PPG, 11.7 RPG and 2.6 BPG in his senior campaign. That translated to the 5th selection in the 1992 NBA Draft and a quick start in his first two seasons in the NBA with the Denver Nuggets. A bad knee injury in his third year proved to be troublesome the rest of the way. While having one more solid season following the injury, his game was never the same as he struggled through an 11-year career.
Highlights

Len Bias: If you haven’t seen the 30 for 30 special on him (which most on this board likely have), I highly suggest you go do it right after reading this. Probably the biggest “What could have been” stories to grace basketball and all of sports, the two-time ACC Player of the Year could do everything out on the court, averaging 23.2 PPG and 7 RPG in his senior season. The Celtics were looking at a player to team up with Larry Bird and continue the Celtics legacy after fleecing the SuperSonics in 1984 to receive what would turn out to be the No. 2 pick in the 1986 Draft for Gerald Henderson. Unfortunately, Bias passed away two days after the Celtics selected him, the result of cardiac arrhythmia due to the usage of cocaine.
Highlights

Lenny Cooke: Going from the biggest “What could have been” story to possibly the biggest high school bust story. Cooke was one of the highest-hyped high school recruits at the time and showcased his impressive athletic ability at 6’6” and 206 lbs., showcasing his talents at the high-school all-star games. Unfortunately, Cooke went undrafted in 2002 and started his tour of numerous leagues. While he found success in leagues like the USBL, Cooke never got his chance in the NBA.
High School Highlights

Leon Smith: Leon was an impressive 6’10” forward who averaged 25.5 PPG and 14.5 RPG in his senior year of high school and decided to enter the Draft straight out of high school. He became the 29th selection of the Spurs before being traded to the Mavericks and it went straight downhill from there. His attitude quickly irritated the Mavs staff and in November, 5 months after being drafted, was checked into a psychiatric ward after throwing a rock through a car window and ingesting around 250 aspirin in an attempt to commit suicide. More problems got him suspended from the Mavericks and he wound up only playing in 15 NBA games.
Overseas Highlights
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Lester Earl: No, not the poster that frequents this board. The 6’8”, 235 lb. McDonald’s All-American forward appeared to be the next star player at LSU since Shaq after finishing his high school career with 2,763 points and 1,915 rebounds. . Scored 26 points and 7 rebounds in his college debut at LSU, but his time there would be short lived. An investigation on a payment to Earl from a booster ended his and Dale Brown’s tenures at LSU. He then transferred to Kansas, where he had a solid sophomore season coming off the bench behind All-Americans Paul Pierce and Raef LaFrentz (It pains me to say that about him). A surgery to repair tissue damage in his knee and angle took away most of his athleticism and he was never the same following the surgery. The NBA never came calling and the much-hyped player out of high school became a distant memory of Kansas fans and a haunting memory for the Tigers.
High School Highlights

Malik Sealy: A McDonald’s All-American, the 6’8” guard headed to St. John’s, where he averaged over 20 PPG in his junior and senior seasons. His impressive scoring ability led to him being the 14th pick in the 1992 Draft by the Pacers. He was traded to the Clippers where he made his biggest impact, averaging double digits in points in all three seasons there. A year in Detroit was a quick trip before he teamed with Kevin Garnett with the Timberwolves. Unfortunately, his career would be ended after only 8 seasons when he was killed in a head-on crash by a drunk driver going the wrong way. The death deeply hurt Garnett, a close friend of his and Sealy was heading home following Garnett’s birthday party. Sealy appeared to have been turning the corner, but it would remain unseen as to what he could have done.
Highlights
Garnett Remembers His Friend Sealy

Marcus Fizer: Fizer used his 6’9” 262 lb. frame to torment the Big 12 following his freshman season at Iowa State. Winning many accolades and taking Iowa State to the Elite 8 in his junior season, where he averaged 22.8 PPG and 7.7 RPG, he decided to forgo his senior season and make the jump to the NBA. After becoming the 4th selection in the 2000 Draft to the Chicago Bulls, he never fully came to grasp the fact he couldn’t bully players like he did in college. Fizer averaged double digits in points in only two seasons and a torn ACL in 2003 helped end his career after 5 seasons and a 3-game stint in 2005-06.
Overseas Highlights

Maurice Stokes: Stokes came into the NBA on fire using his large-for-the-time 6’7” 232 lb. frame to dominate in his rookie season in route to the 1956 Rookie of the Year, averaging 16.8 PPG and 16.3 RPG. He would basically replicate those two averages for the next two seasons until an incident in the last regular season game of his third year. Lucas struck his head on the court after drawing a foul and lost consciousness. He was awoken with smelling salts and finished the game. Three days later following a 12-point, 15-rebound performance, he had a seizure, fell into a coma and was left permanently paralyzed. The three-time All-Star’s career was over at the age of 24.
Teammate and Friend Jack Twyman on Stokes

Mel Daniels: Daniels may be the best player to never leave the ABA (albeit an 11 game experiment with the Nets at the age of 32). The 1967-68 ABA Rookie of the Year, 7-time ABA All-Star two-time ABA MVP and three-time ABA Champion was a double-double machine. So why is a player with such accolades on this list? Well, he went with the ABA and never got the chance to make the switch to the NBA when they merged in 1976 until it was too late in his career. Regardless, he still put together a solid ABA career and was inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame just last year.
Career Retrospective

Michael Olowokandi: Who can be a first overall pick? And become a bust? The Kandi man can. Okay, sorry about the cheesiness. To Michael’s credit, it was beginning to look like he was starting to see his potential in his fifth year, averaging 12.3 PPG, 9.1 RPG and 2.2 BPG during his 2002-03 season with the Clippers. However, that season would be cut short after suffering a hernia and knee injury. Those injuries would severely limit him the rest of the way between stops in Minnesota and Boston and would see his last start at the age of 30.
Dunked On By Amare

Michael Redd: The sharpshooting Redd came into the league as the 6th man for the Milwaukee Bucks, sitting behind another marksman in Ray Allen. When Allen was dealt to Seattle, the keys of the car were handed to Redd and he took off at 100 MPH. Redd rattled off six 20+ PPG seasons from 2003-04 to 2008-09. Unfortunately, that car spun out of control when he tore his ACL and MCL in his left knee during that 2008-09 season. He made a return the following season, but that only lasted 18 games when he tore the same ACL and MCL. He had one more year of coming off the bench for the Suns, but it was over for him at the age of 32. A fun fact before taking off: Redd averaged EXACTLY 20 PPG in his 11 seasons with the Bucks.
Highlights

Micheal Ray Richardson: “Sugar” Ray Richardson was deemed by many to be the next Walt Frazier, so it was only fitting that the Knicks selected him with the 4th pick in the 1978 Draft following a successful career at Montana (Yes, the University of Montana. You’ll catch the irony soon). Richardson became the first player in NBA history to lead the league in assists and steals in the same season when he did it in the 1979-1980 season. He continued to find success, but the rising drug problem in New York caught up to him, he was suspended three times for violating the drug policy and his career was over at the age of 30. Impressively, he went overseas where he continued to play until he was 47. Yes, that is correct, 47 years old.
Highlights
36 Points On Night Bernard King Scored 50

Miles Simon: In one of the most impressive runs in NCAA Tourney history, Simon propelled Arizona to defeat THREE #1 seed teams on their way to the 1997 NCAA National Championship and the Most Outstanding Player award. The 30-point performance in that Final would be the last time we really heard from Simon. He was the 42nd pick in the 1998 NBA Draft, played garbage time for the Magic in 5 games and that was that. While the NBA tenure was brief, Simon will always be remembered in NCAA basketball lore.
Game Winner Vs. Cincinnati For Lute's 500th Win

Ndudi Ebi: The Timberwolves were looking to make a splash with their 2003 first round selection after their three previous first rounders were forfeited due to their illegal deal with Joe Smith. At the 26th selection, they saw an athletic high school prospect from Texas that averaged 22.7 PPG, 11.6 RPG and 3.4 BPG in his senior season of high school. The Timberwolves poor management continued when they tried to send him down to the NBADL in his third season, but were not allowed to due to the league’s requirement of only up to two years of experience. He was soon cut by Minnesota and his NBA career quickly came to an end.
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Omar Cook: Cook went to St. John’s as a highly regarded point guard recruit and wasted little time in proving that. Averaging 15.3 PPG and 8.7 APG in his freshman year there, Cook also set the single-game record for assists with 17, surpassing one Mark Jackson with that record. Cook decided he was ready for the NBA and declared after one year, winding up being the 32nd pick in the 2001 NBA Draft. His scoring prowess never showed at the next level and his NBA career was over after only 22 games. In his second season though, he did average 4.6 PPG, 4.4 APG and 1.2 SPG in only 14.8 MPG.
High School Highlights

Oscar Schmidt: When you receive as much praise as he did from the NBA greats at the time, it was clear that he was something special. When you finish your 29-year basketball playing career with 49,737 points, it shows he was something special. Although the 1992 and 1996 US Olympic teams had no problem running through the Olympics, Schmidt was still a pain in their side, averaging 24.8 PPG and 27.4 PPG in those two Olympics. He never made the jump to the NBA though to maintain his amateur status and continue playing for the Brazilian national team since NBA players were not allowed to play for their national teams up until 1989. Regardless, Schmidt will always be regarded as a top international scorer.
54 Point Game
61 Point Game

Pee Wee Kirkland: The most-hyped streetballer was so talented and quick that even John Wooden was recruiting him to UCLA until he decided to attend Norfolk State to be closer to home, actually teaming up with Bob Dandridge. He was also regarded by Sports Illustrated as the fastest player in college basketball at the time. Staying in Chicago also meant being closer to the drug-dealing game, which would spell the end of any professional hopes. It is reported that he scored 135 and 100 points in two league games in the Anthracite Basketball League in Pennsylvania.

Pete Maravich: I know he had a successful NBA career, but I want to use the knee injuries near the end as an excuse to talk about him more. People always say “We’ll never see another Jordan/Bird/Magic/etc.” Maravich fits into that same category. A player that was so far ahead of his time, players in the NBA are still trying to replicate some of the moves that Pistol did back in the 1970s. A constant 20+ PPG average through each season, Maravich reached 31.1 PPG in the 1976-77 season. Knee injuries to both knees the following season cut that season short and limited his athleticism the rest of the way, retiring after the 1979-80 season at the age of 32. Maravich remains one of the most creative scorers in the NBA.
LSU Highlights
Highlights

Rafer Alston: While guys like Pee Wee Kirkland and Joe Hammond may be legends to streetball purists, Skip To My Lou is a streetball legend to the more recent generation. Known more for his And 1 antics, Alston averaged 11 PPG and 7.3 APG in his lone season at Fresno State and toiled around the NBA for awhile until the Rockets gave him starting opportunities. Constant 10+ PPG and 5+ APG seasons became the norm for Alston, but he was 29 by the time he was at Houston and his success in the NBA would shortly come to a close. He was out of the NBA by 33, but his name will be remembered in streetball history.
Highlights
Rafer Toys With Sasha Vujacic

Randy Livingston: While Lester Earl hurt LSU with the allegations, Livingston’s knees decided to hurt LSU. A strong 6’4” 209 lb. point guard was the High School co-Player of the Year in 1992 with Jason Kidd and repeated in 1993 with Rasheed Wallace. However, knee injuries limited Livingston to only 29 games in his two seasons at LSU before heading to the NBA, where he played garbage minutes for 9 different teams in 11 seasons. The McDonald’s All American never got the opportunity to show his talents that gained his recognition at the high school level.

Raymond Lewis: Legendary coach Jerry Tarkanian called Lewis the best player he ever saw. He has been regarded by some as the best player to never play in the NBA. Lewis became the youngest player at the time to be selected to the NBA when the 76ers took him with the 18th pick in the 1973 Draft. The lore continued to follow Lewis, claiming he scored 60 points against Doug Collins in an intra-squad scrimmage by halftime. A lengthy contract dispute with the team wound up keeping him out of the NBA and the ABA. His personal attitude played a role as well in not receiving a second chance, but the lore and legend of Lewis will never cease.

Reggie Lewis: A year after the untimely death of Len Bias, the Celtics took Lewis, the three-time America East Player of the Year, with the 22nd pick in the 1987 Draft. Lewis exploded following his rookie season and saw his PPG rise up to 20.8 PPG in both the 1991-92 and 1992-93 seasons, and became the first Celtic in franchise history to have 100 rebounds, 100 assists, 100 steals and 100 blocks in one season. He was finally beginning to start to reach his potential at the age of 27, but a heart attack during an off-season practice ended his life in 1993. It has been debated ad nauseum the exact cause of the heart attack, but it will always remain to be seen what could have been the next few years of his carer.
Highlights (NSFW: Language)

Robert Swift: Outside of the nasty living conditions he left in his previous house, Swift actually once had the potential to be a strong center in the NBA. At 7’1” 281 lbs. Swift became the 12th pick of the Sonics in the 2004 Draft. He showed a little of his potential with 6.4 PPG, 5.6 RPG and 1.2 BPG in 21 MPG in his second season. Swift ruptured his ACL in the preseason before the 2006-07 season, missed that whole year and was out of the NBA two years later at the age of 23.

Ron Harper: Yes, I know that Harper is a five-time NBA champion. At the same time, he was a high-flying, athletic guard for the Cavaliers. Harper had no problem averaging above 20 PPG during his time in Cleveland and his first 28 games with the Clippers. A severe knee injury ended that season early and had sapped almost all of the athleticism he once had. To his credit, Harper focused more on the defensive side of the ball and team basketball on offense, turning him into a big guard with the ability to run the offense during his title runs with the Bulls and the Lakers.
Highlights
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Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Ronnie Fields: When people think of the top dunkers, the usual NBA names tend to come up: Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Wilkins, Erving, Kemp, etc. But former high school teammate Kevin Garnett may tell you that Ronnie Fields would be the best dunker, and he may have a solid case. Fields was reported to have a 50-inch vertical and was constantly throwing down highlight-reel dunks at Farragut Academy. With Garnett gone, Fields averaged a video game statline his senior year in high school: 32.4 PPG, 12.2 RPG, 5.1 APG, 4.5 BPG, 4 SPG and 4.5 DPG (dunks per game). It looked like he had the potential to being a top-tier player until he was involved in a car accident before his city playoffs that senior year and broke his neck. Surgery to repair a fractured bone in his neck would prove detrimental especially after he was denied admission to DePaul after being ruled academically ineligible. He went undrafted in the 1998 NBA Draft and would begin his playing all around the world.
High School Highlights (NSFW: Language)

Roy Tarpley: The two-time third team All-American at Michigan used his long, 6’11” frame to be a double-double machine at the college level, where he averaged 15.9 PPG, 8.8 RPG and 2.9 BPG his senior year. He became the 7th pick of the Mavericks in the 1987 Draft and quickly started averaging double doubles by his second year in the league. He picked up his first DWI suspension in the 1989-90 season, picked up his second in the 1990-91 season, and picked up his third strike a few months later and that was that for his NBA career at the age of 26. He came back at the age of 30, but another alcohol incident had him permanently banned. The sky was the limit for a player that wound up never coming close to it due to his alcoholism.
Mavericks Highlights
Overseas Highlights

Sam Bowie: When you think of all-time NBA Draft busts, Sam Bowie is normally the first name that comes out of any fan’s voice. Unfortunately for him, he gets the blame for Portland’s mistake. Despite being a 3rd team All-American during the 1980-81 season and a 2nd team All-American during the 1983-84 season, Bowie missed the two seasons in between them with shin and leg injuries that would later derail his career. They still took him ahead of Michael Jordan after taking Drexler the year before and things did not go well from the beginning. After a solid rookie season, Bowie would go on to break his left and right legs in consecutive seasons, and after one more broken leg during the preseason before the 1987-88 season was enough and he was sent to the Nets. While having three fairly decent seasons, he was 28 when he joined the Nets and Jordan was closing in on his first of many titles, leaving Portland fans wondering “What if?”
That Fateful Day

Sean Williams: Regarded as one of the top shot blockers in ACC history, blocking 193 shots in 69 games and only averaged 20.5 MPG over his career at Boston College. Unfortunately, trouble followed him and he was suspended twice from the team, including being kicked off the team following his second suspension after only 15 games in his junior season. Despite playing only 15 games, he set a school record with 75 blocks in those games and a 5 BPG average. He entered the NBA Draft and became the 17th selection of the Nets in 2007. His troubles off the court continued and has only seen action in 137 games in his 4 years in the league. The athleticism and shot blocking was always there, but his head never was.
Highlights

Sebastian Telfair: The pride of Coney Island, Telfair was on Sports Illustrated covers, was competing with Dwight Howard for the #1 2004 recruit and was one of the most-hyped recruits of all time. He spurned an opportunity to play at Louisville and Rick Pintino to enter the NBA Draft, where he was the 13th selection by the Trail Blazers, and would have that wind up being his biggest mistake. His playmaking abilities struggled to translate into the NBA, and while still in the league, Telfair has never been able to average double-digits and points and has yet to average 6 APG in his 8 seasons. Telfair quickly became one of many poor decisions from the front office in Portland.
Highlights

Sergio Rodriguez: Rodriguez was regarded as one of the best foreign passers before Ricky Rubio even came along. His court vision and leadership abilities grew as a young player over in Spain. He would become the 27th pick of the 2006 NBA Draft by the Suns but would be a draft-day trade to Portland (figures right?). Despite that solid passing ability, Sergio could never break into the starting lineup, starting only 14 games during his three seasons in Portland and saw his career end a year later at the age of 23. He wound up going back to Spain to play, where he is playing with Real Madrid, but Ricky Rubio would soon show who the better playmaker would be between the two.
Highlights (NSFW: Language)

Shammond Williams: By the time the 6’1” Williams left North Carolina, he was one of the most prolific scorers in school history. In his senior season, when he was teamed up with Vince Carter, Antawn Jamison and Ed Cota, he averaged 16.7 PPG and 4.2 APG. He set five school records, all around free throws and three-pointers, yet it wasn’t enough to impress NBA teams when he was the 34th pick in the 1998 NBA Draft. Shammond wound up having only one season where he averaged above 20 MPG and wound up just being a bench scorer for his whole career, basically ending at the age of 28.
Highlights (NSFW: Language)

Shaun Livingston: One of the most gruesome injuries ever seen in sports history destroyed all of the potential from one of the most intriguing point guard prospects to come along in a long time. The co-MVP of the 2004 McDonald’s All-American Game, Livingston enticed many teams with his 6’7” height with supreme point guard abilities. His athleticism combined with his passing ability. The Clippers used their 4th selection in the 2004 Draft on him, and he quickly showed his potential. By his third season, Livingston was averaging 9.3 PPG and 5.1 APG in 29.8 MPG until that fateful night during the 2006-07 season. Livingston landed awkwardly following a layup and his left knee would never be the same. The incident tore his ACL, PCL and lateral meniscus, badly spraining the MCL, and dislocated his patella and tibia-femoral joint. He missed the whole next season rehabbing all of the injuries, but his game would never come close to being the same. While he still remains in the league, recently signing a deal with the Nets, his numbers dropped significantly and has left fans remembering the brief glimpse of potential they saw with him.
Highlights
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Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:55 pm to


How the hell long did this take you.


eta- Posted before your request.
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Posted by arowana
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Dude you need to get out more
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Shawne Williams: The athletic 6’9” forward was a highly-recruited prospect before heading to Memphis, where he lead the Conference USA freshmen in scoring and rebounding, averaging 13.2 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 1.4 SPG and 1.4 BPG. He felt like he was NBA ready and left Memphis after one season, being the 17th pick in the 2006 NBA Draft by the Pacers. Drug problems would riddle his professional career and sidetracked his career. Williams had only one fairly successful season when he shot 40.1% from beyond the arc for the Knicks during the 2010-11 season, but his NBA career would be over following the next season at the age of 25.
Highlights (NSFW: Language)

Sofoklis Schortsanitis: The first, and likely not the last, to receive the nickname Baby Shaq started playing professional basketball overseas at the age of 15. He would average 11.5 PPG and 6.2 RPG in the Greek League at the young age of 17. His hopes of heading to the NBA, despite being drafted 34th overall by the Clippers in the 2003 Draft, ended when he signed with the renowned Olympiacos for the 2005-06 season. The contract he signed would be a huge hindrance in any transition to the NBA, but other problems helped prevent that. A chronic weight gain issue and a chronic knee injury continued to plague the 6’10” center, who saw his weight fluctuate up to 345 lbs. He continues to play overseas, but the basketball purists still wonder if he could have had a solid effect in the NBA earlier in his career.
Highlights

Spencer Haywood: After averaging 30 PPG and 19.5 RPG in his one year in the ABA, Haywood won a landmark case against the NBA that would eliminate their four years out of high school rule. He started in the NBA right where he left off in the ABA with 5 straight seasons of over 20 PPG, reaching 29.2 PPG in the 1972-73 season, and had no problem averaging in double-digit rebounds in 4 of those seasons. Unfortunately like a number of players in the late 1970s, his involvement in drugs would be his detriment and his numbers would start to fall. Regardless, the numbers he put up at a young age showed the potential he could have had throughout his career.
Some Highlights

Stanley Roberts: Regarded as a top 5 national recruit and held his own against Alonzo Mourning at the McDonald’s All-American Game, Roberts career started to head downhill from there. His laziness played a role at LSU, where he only played for one year before going overseas to play for a year after leaving the school. Despite that, the Magic took him 23rd overall in the 1991 NBA Draft. Injuries and weight gain problems would leave him with only two seasons where he averaged over 10 PPG. While his career was near the end, the NBA banned Roberts for drug violations and that was that for the once McDonald’s All-American.
Highlights

T.J. Ford: The speedy point guard showcased his ability at Texas on his way to being a unanimous Player of the Year in 2003, where he averaged 15 PPG, 7.7 APG and 2 SPG. His speed, court vision and ability to finish at the rim intrigued all NBA teams. The Bucks made him the 8th selection in the 2003 NBA Draft. Ford's rookie season would only last 55 games when a nasty fall on his tailbone caused a contusion to his spine, something that would affect him the rest of the way. After missing the whole next season, he returned with two solid seasons, but more injuries followed which caused him to retire in 2012 and marred what could have been a solid career for one of the fastest players in the NBA at the time.
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Tracy McGrady: Yes, he was a 7-time All-Star and a two-time scoring champion, but he also had about 4-5 more good seasons until injuries quickly derailed his career. The 9th pick of the 1997 NBA Draft by the Raptors, McGrady would be soon paired with his cousin Vince Carter to form an exciting scoring duo. He would then go back to his home state of Florida to play for the Magic, where his scoring would skyrocket to video game-esque numbers. Averaging 32.1 and 28 PPG in consecutive seasons, McGrady showed he could score in a variety of ways. He would then head to Houston where the injuries to his left knee and shoulder would start to accumulate for him. He continued his scoring but as the wear and tear of the league took its toll on McGrady, it took it out on his numbers as well. His career began free-falling at the age of 28, and while he is still in the league as a veteran presence deep on the bench, people still try to remember the higher points of his career, including the memorable 13 points in the last 35 seconds of a game to beat the Spurs.
Highlights
13 Points In 35 Seconds (I was at that game)

Yao Ming: We end this with teammates that could never stay on the court together long enough to see what they could have done. Ming came over to the NBA as one of the more intriguing prospects in the history of the NBA, and the Rockets had no trouble selecting him 1st overall in the 2002 NBA Draft. Despite being voted to the All-Star game in all 8 seasons he played (a victim of lame fan voting), Ming could only have three healthy seasons at the beginning of his career before a slew of injuries would take their toll on him. When he was playing, he was still averaging close to a double-double, but the injuries continued to pile up and his NBA career was over at the age of 30 after only playing in 5 games in that final season.
Highlights
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Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Okay, done, feel free to post now

And to answer your question, I worked on it a little bit every day, more during the weekend, for about a month
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Posted by brgfather129
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

feel free to add your own players to this


Shawn Respert

Todd Lichti
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:10 pm to
Nice work.

You had me at Len Bias. That was enough.
Posted by SomeTigerFan
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:33 pm to
Tl;dr





Nice work
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Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:47 pm to
Chris Porter was a fricking boss. THat fro
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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I think it was the most fun and toughest part just to watch the highlights of these guys who never got that shot like watching Hank Gathers go down on the court
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:56 pm to
Well done.


Ralph Sampson would've been a good one. A 7'4" center who had the skills of a guard. Injuries hit just as he was becoming great. A few players from those mid-'80s Rockets teams should've/would've/could've made the list.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:59 pm to
Acie Law...it seems like just yesterday he was a sure things. Great list and a lot of good names. Very good read. I
Posted by S
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:00 pm to
van gundy held down jake tsakalidis and vassilis spanoulis.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:02 pm to
acie law is a count
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:06 pm to
Nice post cdub. I remember watching J Critt in HS with Dwight. It's a shame he could never get it together. I would add Louis Williams under the "shoulda" category, best HS player I've ever seen (i saw Dwight, josh smith, basically everyone who came through ATL). Granted his career isn't over and comparatively has done pretty well.

ETA Randolph Morris is another good "shoulda". He was neck and neck with Dwight in HS
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