re: Should NCAA College Eligibility Rules be enforced?

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Hold That Tiger 10

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Just realized you were the guy that commented on the 2023 thread.

We can disagree on the finer points but clearly what I said back then didn't warrant the "what's going in this guy's head" type of response. It was getting pretty clear back then where this was all headed and history has proven me correct.

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but the NCAA has been completely neutered by the court system, and it's only going to get worse before some semblance of common sense returns, if it ever does.

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But if its 5 to play 5 then there is zero gray area for a lawyer to attack.

This isn't a situation like NIL, where the NCAA is preventing kids from making money off of something the NCAA shouldn't be able to control.

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Sure. Except for the fact that none of what you said is accurate.

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Here is my quote from 2/6/23:

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The 5 years to play 4 thing could seem archaic very soon

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3 years later and we have these headlines almost every week

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By and large playing college football in the NIL era is way more lucrative than whatever most of these non NFL level CFB players will be doing post college ball. They’re going to keep fighting it and it’s going to get more and more ridiculous.

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Its the greatest opportunity and window for $ in their lives and for most who have no lottery jackpot future in the hyper-competitive NFL...they know it and will not be put out to pasture willingly.

Pro money for the never-was-beens, all due to the confluence of irrational CFB fandom and manchild College greed by the stewards of these institutions.

Since going to College to get a job is fizzling out in cost/benefit, going to College for a job is now the last fruits of that promise, for a select few, in a select sport. Who can honestly blame the players, whatever someone is willing to pay you, for the promise of performance whether players deliver or not. Can't beat that type of employment in most walks of life.

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At some point, the schools themselves need to say, "Want to come back for a 7th year at age 25, you enroll, pay your tuition, books, etc, pass classes, and you can play." So basically, no athletic scholarships for those types of athletes. They have to pay their own way, and then they're more than welcome to collect whatever 3rd party NIL is offered to them. Or Get Gordon can pay their tuition if he wants.

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A school would NEVER do that. If they can have a 26-7 year old qb who would be a borderline nfl starter leading them deep into the playoffs annually you better believe they’re taking that deal 10/10 times.

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Which makes sense today, but a few years ago, making sure amateur athletes weren't paid professionals seemed like a zero gray area position as well.

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100% disagree. This was a hot button issue for a long time.

If I'm in college and a great trumpet player, nothing prevents me from joining and band and getting paid to play my trumpet.

Athletes had a market of people willing to pay for their autograph, they had people buying jerseys that they wore, they were in video games that people wanted to buy, and it was illegal for them to earn a dime.

NIL isn't the issue. The issue is the NCAA sat on their arse and allowed this to go from 0 to 100 with no guidelines in place. Now it's out of control.

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NCAA would love to limit portal migration and eligibility to 5 years, but they can’t win in court in any of these cases. The Supreme Court essentially clipped their nuts and they have no shot unless some governing body helps them or the players collectively bargain with them.

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What cases did the Supreme Court clip their nuts? I know some lower courts have been quick to grant injunctions favoring the players.

I remember the Supreme Court decision on what’s considered the “NIL” ruling but was not actually focused on NIL or a ruling on NIL, but even that decision stated NCAA could make rules.

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This week’s ruling removes the NCAA’s right to limit what constitutes an athletic scholarship, allowing college athletes to receive money for school and educational supplies, such as computers.

While today’s decision preserves the lower court ruling, it also reaffirms the NCAA’s authority to adopt reasonable rules and repeatedly notes that the NCAA remains free to articulate what are and are not truly educational benefits, consistent with the NCAA’s mission to support student-athletes.

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But thats not in your quote from your reply in this thread, which is what I replied to.

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Ok. I thought you were standing by your position that my full 2023 post was some insane take. Looking back now, it was anything but.

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optional sports league

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Because there’s been a whole psy-op to convince us that the NCAA and P4ish schools are a monopoly, that there’s no other option for most American athletes to get to the top levels. Arena football didn’t exist, the UFL doesn’t exist, the G League doesn’t register. It’s D1 or nothing if you have pro dreams and they’ve convinced us of that