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re: Sark After Dark Lights have been turned on and last call has been made

Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:40 pm to
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You are being idiotic again. In that situation it was the right call, if you go for it


Every statistic I've ever seen shows how low percentage the fade is. It's one read with no profession for the QB. If the DB covers it well you only can get bailed out by a PI call or a remarkable play by a receiver.
This post was edited on 12/27/16 at 11:42 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:41 pm to
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You are being idiotic again.


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In that situation it was the right call, if you go for it

No way. Throw a slant. Throw to the tight end. Roll out the QB and give him the option to run. There are a ton of other things you can do besides a damn fade. It's certainly not definitely the "right" call.
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You get it picked on a slant it's 6.

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You are being idiotic again.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:42 pm to
Baylor qb has a rocket on those screen passes
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:42 pm to
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Every statistic I've ever seen shows how low percentage the fade is.

Well duh.

It's all or nothing, has to be very well thrown. It's much more likely to work in the pro game.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:43 pm to
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Roll out the QB and give him the option to run.


Georgia ran a play called Rabbit Redskin for our two point play pretty much every year under Richt and I felt like it always worked. Roll out right, give your QB a run-pass option with 3 receivers in the area.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:43 pm to
You saw where and how Baylor played that?

Inside out?

The play and read was the fade

Do you not understand coverages?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:45 pm to
Baylor and penalties
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:45 pm to
You're already short on space so you pick a 2 foot square to throw a prayer to? I can't abide
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:45 pm to
Especially against a team like Baylor. Put those secondary defenders in a bind and make them make a decision on what to guard.

Speaking of the fade... David Greene was a guy who could throw the fade route with perfect touch along the sideline. That dude was the man.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:48 pm to
So you're going to throw something that's not open

Slant he won't get across the DB and has inside help coming and top help

Fade gives you one on one and is the throw you make on that play

The DB made the play.

You could've tried to smash it but on the 3 there's no room for top of the combo

Posted by BeYou
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:49 pm to
I actually got to give Kendal credit, he is calling a good game.

He must be motivated because he wants the bowl game win bonus. He obviously quit after he got the bowl game eligibility bonus.
This post was edited on 12/27/16 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:49 pm to
And even in the pros it's a low percentage play. I remember reading a study on it like 4 years ago (after UGA had done a few too many fades) and it was something like a 25% success rate.

You need a great QB, and a stud receiver who clearly is more physical than the defender. That's the only time I like it (and even then I prefer a back shoulder throw to the fade).
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:49 pm to
You two are way off. The Statue of Liberty is the only thing that would have got that in the end zone
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:51 pm to
Boise is going to make a comeback and lose b/c they didn't kick that FG.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:52 pm to
At least Baylor's showing they've become more disciplined throughout the season
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:53 pm to
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You need a great QB, and a stud receiver who clearly is more physical than the defender. That's the only time I like it (and even then I prefer a back shoulder throw to the fade).

Exactly.

The back shoulder throw is the new-age version. If the receiver uses the proper footwork and pivots correctly (while using his body to shield the defender), it's really hard to guard. Plus, the throw doesn't have to be nearly as good from the QB.

It's easier to give a slight push-off and maintain your balance on a back shoulder throw, too. Which we see in the pros ALL the time.

ETA: They actually should make it a point of emphasis to call OPI on that play more, especially around the end zone. The defenders have basically no chance, and the slightest push-off can make all the difference.
This post was edited on 12/27/16 at 11:59 pm
Posted by 0
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:56 pm to
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Price won at Wazzu Dykes won at Tech Don't try to make it he took them to places they've never been. I give him credit for Wazzu getting them back to Price levels though Also you don't lose to FCS teams at home in consecutive years.


So one other coach in the programs history had success and that's your argument for Leach not being a good coach?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:57 pm to
Aaron Murray used to be freaking money on the back shoulder throw, especially to Malcolm Mitchell.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 12/27/16 at 11:59 pm to
Big play
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 12:00 am to
What he is average that's it.

He's nothing special he's never won a conference he's never backed up big wins he has lost games he shouldn't yearly

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