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re: Sarah Fuller's Vanderbilt uniform on display at the College Football Hall of Fame...
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:55 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:55 pm to LNCHBOX
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More than anything Fuller did.
This.
He was at practice every day, busting his arse, taking hits like a man and showing a shite ton of heart. Apparently the coaches were impressed enough to let him play a couple of snaps in his final game in a blow out win as a reward for his hard work and effort.
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 12:57 pm to LNCHBOX
I didn’t move a damn thing 
I don’t think Rudy earned a spot in the game because the only way to “Earn” a spot in a game is to be the best player available which no one thinks he was.
Re: 39 yard fg
1) I already said multiple teams have different kickers for short and long range which you ignored
2) She played against Mizzou when no one else was available (even though she didn’t get a chance to kick a fg). By your “Rudy” standard it sure seems like she earned an opportunity to score
I don’t think Rudy earned a spot in the game because the only way to “Earn” a spot in a game is to be the best player available which no one thinks he was. Re: 39 yard fg
1) I already said multiple teams have different kickers for short and long range which you ignored
2) She played against Mizzou when no one else was available (even though she didn’t get a chance to kick a fg). By your “Rudy” standard it sure seems like she earned an opportunity to score
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:00 pm to RollTide1987
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He was at practice every day, busting his arse, taking hits like a man and showing a shite ton of heart.
Sounds a lot like a participation trophy. Didn’t realize this board was in favor of those now
She was the best player available for mizzou and neither you nor I can prove differently, so gtfoh with your double standards.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:01 pm to Dixie.Reb
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She was the best player available for mizzou and neither you nor I can prove differently, so gtfoh with your double standards.
We actually can since there was an all state high school kicker on the fricking team that was available.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:02 pm to RollTide1987
I wouldn't mind this if she was actually a good kicker. She just isn't
so sick of this bs
so sick of this bs
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:02 pm to Dixie.Reb
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1) I already said multiple teams have different kickers for short and long range which you ignored
39 isn't long you fricking putz. You don't know shite about anything, so spare us
And before you say she can kick better than me, I too have kicked in an SEC stadium
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:02 pm to RollTide1987
Does it include her chastity belt?...
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:03 pm to Dixie.Reb
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I don’t think Rudy earned a spot in the game because the only way to “Earn” a spot in a game is to be the best player available which no one thinks he was.
It was 24-3 in the final seconds of the final home game of the season. Coaches reward hard working contributors all the time in those situations. Saban gave Rob Ezell a couple of snaps at QB in the final seconds of the 2010 Georgia State game when we were up 63-7. Ezell wasn't talented enough to see the field but was hard working and a student of the game.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:12 pm to RollTide1987
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It was 24-3 in the final seconds of the final home game of the season. Coaches reward hard working contributors all the time in those situations.
And Fuller was in a meaningless final home game of the season for a winless team. After she stepped in the week before on short notice when the coaches decided they needed her.
Plus she actually made both kicks. Sebastian Janikowski couldn’t have done better in terms of outcome, so she clearly belonged in that position. Considering none of y’all have made a kick in a D1 football game, maybe you should stfu.
If you like a feel good story about a man, but find reasons to hate a feel good story about a woman, that says a lot more about you than it does her.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:13 pm to Dixie.Reb
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Rudy was a feel good story about a player who wasn’t talented enough to play and committed a penalty in his famous moment.
You forgot the whole legitimately earned his spot on the team thing.
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If he was a woman, this entire board would be screaming about virtue signaling and PR stunts
Did he literally get added to the team a couple of days prior to do something anyone else on the team could have done?
Did he receive player of the week honors for commuting a flawless penalty in a game his team lost 40-0?
Because if not your comparison is even more stupid now than when you first made it.
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Fuller actually scored 2 points.
She was anointed a hero and savior the week prior for making a mockery of the sport. After other women that had legitimately earned their opportunities actually did more in previous years.
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And even if there was another kicker in the roster, that doesn’t detract from the history
It absolutely does. She didn’t earn anything. Everything in this situation was literally handed to her, strictly because of her gender.
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plenty of teams already have short and long range kickers and no one bats an eye.
The kicker that was used for the 39 yard field goal was 9-9 on XP for the year.
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Also, if your argument is that Rudy brought attention to football, what do you think Fuller did? You can’t call it a PR stunt and then act like it didn’t bring positive PR.
It didn’t bring positive PR. No one is talking positively about college football as a result of this. The only positive talk is about women’s empowerment. Everyone talking about the football aspect is talking negatively, and rightfully so.
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Rudy was in no way legitimately the best player in that situation. It was an orchestrated situation, and that’s ok.
Rudy was a walk-on that was given an opportunity to get on the field for the first time during his senior day, after years on the scout team sacrificing himself for the betterment of others. This happens all the time, every year, in every sport. The fact that he was the first Norte Dame player to be carried off the field shows the immense respect his teammates had for him.
Fuller was put on the team days before a game as a PR stunt, put in the game to explicitly perform an action that makes a mockery of the sport, and then lauded as a hero for her poor performance in a situation she did absolutely nothing to earn.
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What’s not ok is one standard for a man and another for a woman
Exactly. Why was a “perfectly executed squib kick” by a woman rewarded with player of the week honors when no man has ever received the award for that reason? Why is being a woman the only qualification she needed to be on the team and get in the game, while men have to actually earn the right to do both?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:13 pm to Dixie.Reb
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Sebastian Janikowski couldn’t have done better in terms of outcome, so she clearly belonged in that position.
Never go full retard, folks.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:16 pm to LNCHBOX
Explain to me how janikowski scores more points than Fuller on the 2 PATs? Bottom line, she did was she was asked to do as well as she possibly could have. She earned it
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:17 pm to Dixie.Reb
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She earned it
She didn't earn the privilege to be out there in the first place. That's what you fail to comprehend.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:19 pm to Dixie.Reb
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She was the best player available for mizzou and neither you nor I can prove differently, so gtfoh with your double standards.
I can absolutely prove every available player on Vanderbilt’s roster is capable of kicking the ball 20 yards with a running start and 3 days of practice.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:20 pm to Dixie.Reb
quote:If a 39 yard field goal is considered "long" enough for you to be replaced by someone else, you're not a good enough kicker to be playing in college. Period. The fact they had someone "behind" her that could easily walk up and knock down a kick she couldn't have made after 5 years of practice blows literally everything you're arguing for out of the water. They didn't need her. It's a show.
Re: 39 yard fg
1) I already said multiple teams have different kickers for short and long range which you ignored
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:25 pm to RollTide1987
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Saban gave Rob Ezell a couple of snaps at QB in the final seconds of the 2010 Georgia State game when we were up 63-7.
Ah, I remember that
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:27 pm to Open Your Eyes
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You forgot the whole legitimately earned his spot on the team thing
Rudy earned his spot as a glorified tackling dummy. Nothing more.
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Did he literally get added to the team a couple of days prior to do something anyone else on the team could have done?
Lol, not every player can kick a PAT or else coaches wouldn’t waste multiple scholarships on kickers.
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It didn’t bring positive PR. No one is talking positively about college football as a result of this.
Sorry you live in a bubble, but in the real world people definitely are. At least as much as after Rudy
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She was anointed a hero and savior the week prior for making a mockery of the sport. After other women that had legitimately earned their opportunities actually did more in previous years.
Did you push for Katie Hnida and the other women to get added to the CFB HoF? If not, gtfoh with that disengenuous BS. The fact is that most people attacking Fuller would attack the other women as well given the chance. They are just being used as props in an argument.
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The fact that he was the first Norte Dame player to be carried off the field shows the immense respect his teammates had for him.
I’m guessing you didn’t see all the Vandy players celebrating with Fuller after the PAT. Doesn’t seem like they share your concerns.
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Why was a “perfectly executed squib kick” by a woman rewarded with player of the week honors when no man has ever received the award for that reason?
Yeah, why do we remember Jackie Robinson when there were lots of other players with comparable stats? Come on
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:28 pm to Dixie.Reb
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After she stepped in the week before on short notice when the coaches decided they needed her.
The coaches and administration decided they were going to make a mockery of the sport and their school just to have a big PR moment. They didn’t decide they needed her.
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If you like a feel good story about a man, but find reasons to hate a feel good story about a woman, that says a lot more about you than it does her.
I like a feel good story about any person that works hard to earn an opportunity, performs admirably when the opportunity presents itself, and is humble about getting the opportunity.
Sarah Fuller did none of those things. She was literally handed her opportunity because of her gender and nothing else. She kicked a ball 20 yards in a situation that calls for it to be kicked 60. And her halftime speech, post game interview, and subsequent social media behavior show her to be conceited and oblivious to the facts of the situation.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:31 pm to Dixie.Reb
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Yeah, why do we remember Jackie Robinson when there were lots of other players with comparable stats? Come on
Comparing her to Jackie fricking Robinson?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 1:38 pm to Drewbie
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I can absolutely prove every available player on Vanderbilt’s roster is capable of kicking the ball 20 yards with a running start and 3 days of practice.
I don’t think you know what prove means
the only way to prove this would be to actually do it. I’m sure you’re convinced it is true, but that isn’t proof. And it’s not just about kicking 20 yards, it’s about kicking with direction and pace. The kick matched up with the coverage according to experts with way more football knowledge than you quote:
If a 39 yard field goal is considered "long" enough for you to be replaced by someone else, you're not a good enough kicker to be playing in college. Period.
Butch Jones literally had a situation where the cutoff was 40 yards LINK
PSU had the cutoff at 50 yards LINK
DIII school switched over at 35 yards LINK
Stop making stuff up and pretending it’s proof of anything
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