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re: Saban is easily the GOAT. Why not give the NFL another shot?
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
People will tell you he didn’t like the NFL because he’s a dictator and the players couldn’t handle him
The truth is saban can’t handle not having a totally stacked deck in his favor. He couldn’t process his roster frick ups
He’s not really an elite Xs and Os coach. A great program manager and excellent at exploiting ncaa loop holes before others catch on. Helps to have a school that gives you an endless budget to do what you want
The truth is saban can’t handle not having a totally stacked deck in his favor. He couldn’t process his roster frick ups
He’s not really an elite Xs and Os coach. A great program manager and excellent at exploiting ncaa loop holes before others catch on. Helps to have a school that gives you an endless budget to do what you want
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
Pros and college are 2 different animals. Why deal with primadonnas.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
For starters, I think he would immediately become one of the 5 oldest NFL head coaches of all time.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:34 pm to Big L
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He’s not a good enough coach.
He took over a 4-12 franchise and went 15-17 in two years.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:37 pm to toratiger
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He can’t stack his roster in the pros like he can in college.
Nick Saban says coaching Miami Dolphins was frustrating
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"In the two years that I was here I had a very, very difficult time thinking that I could impact the organization in the way that I wanted to or in the way that I was able to in college," who left the Dolphins following the 2006 season after going 15-17 in two seasons.
"And it was very difficult for me because there is a lot of parity in the NFL. There's a lot of rules in the NFL."
Saban, who can bring in a blue-chip class of recruits every year at Alabama, said the restraints of the draft and salary cap are difficult obstacles to overcome in the NFL.
"You can draft a player that is there when you pick. It might not be the player you need. It might not be the player that you want," Saban said. "You have salary-cap issues. We had them [with the Dolphins].
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Control issues. He cannot control professional players and the media like he can in Tuscalosa
Both of these are true.
He hated free agency and having only those draft picks his team had in the draft. He also hated having lower draft picks when doing better (i.e. lower picks the better record the team has).
His coaching/discipline schtick also doesn't work nearly as well with paid players/adults who can't be as easy controlled.
Archive link - "I'm A Grown-arse Man!": How Miami Trolled The Hell Out Of Nick Saban
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At the Miami Dolphins’ annual rookie talent show, Matt Roth and Channing Crowder—the second- and third-round draft picks, respectively, that year—decided to team up for their act. Instead of trying to sing or dance or tell jokes, they opted to go with something a bit bolder. With the coaches, players, and staff gathered in an auditorium at the Dolphins’ headquarters, Crowder called the rookie head coach up to the stage, which had, as a prop, a single chair. “I looked out into the crowd and said, ‘Hey, Coach, we just appreciate you giving us the chance to play in the NFL, and we want to show you some love,’ ” says Crowder. With that, he pointed to the chair and invited Saban to sit down.
Saban, somewhat reluctantly, obliged. He sat facing Crowder and Roth. At that moment, Kay-Jay Harris, an undrafted free agent who had been signed by the team, was supposed to start playing some loud club music over the speakers, but he couldn’t figure out how to get the CD player to work. The “surprise” that Crowder and Roth had in store for Saban didn’t wait for her cue, however. From behind him, a stripper—dressed in high heels, a very small bikini, and a Jason Taylor Dolphins jersey—pranced out of a door and onto the stage. She touched Saban’s back. He flinched. When she walked around to face Saban, he shot straight up in his chair. Harris still couldn’t get the music going. The auditorium was instead filled with shouts and catcalls coming from the seats. The stripper moved in front of Saban and began to dance provocatively. He sat completely still for one more moment, then abruptly stood up, walked off the stage, and hustled up the stairs. The room went silent. “There were like 30 stairs,” says Crowder. “All you could hear was the click, click, click of his shoes, then the door creaking open and the boom when it shut behind him.” The room exploded in delirious peals of laughter. “It was pretty immature on our part to include Saban in the skit,” says Crowder. “But that’s why we did it.”
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In “organized team activities” (OTAs) that spring, Saban had the entire team line up for sprints. He blew his whistle, and everyone took off ... except for Keith Traylor, a nose tackle who weighed at least 350 pounds. According to some of his teammates, Traylor—then a 14-year NFL veteran and winner of three Super Bowls—had a clause in his contract that relieved him of conditioning duties. So, instead of sprinting with the rest of the team, Traylor set off on a leisurely jog. When he realized that Saban was eyeing him, Traylor began to taunt him, yelling, “Hey, Nick! Hey, Nick!” Traylor knew, as the rest of his teammates did, that Saban hated being called “Nick” by his players. He wanted them to address him as “Coach” or “Coach Saban,” just as his college players always had.
Traylor kept yelling, “Hey, Nick!” Finally, Saban snapped and told him to shut the hell up and run.
Traylor responded: “Who the frick do you think you’re talking to?” and ambled over to the sideline and stood and watched as his teammates ran their sprints.
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Later that off-season, during an intra-team scrimmage, Zach Thomas, a hard-nosed and, at times, crusty nine-year NFL vet, got into a shouting match with one of the Dolphins’ assistant coaches. Thomas, because of his experience and talent, was a leader on the defense. He got a kick out of occasionally switching a Saban-called play in the defensive huddle, something his coach had begun to notice. Saban’s face contorted into rage when he heard Thomas yelling. He stopped practice and ran over to Thomas and told him to “shut the frick up.” Thomas told Saban to “shut the frick up” right back, then yelled, “I’m a grown-arse man!” As the two men went at it face-to-face, Thomas’s teammates sensed that the linebacker’s fury was placing him on the verge of doing something he would later regret, so they grabbed him by the shoulders and dragged him away as he continued to shout and point a finger at his head coach.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:41 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Why not take on the ultimate challenge of succeeding in the nfl?
Is this true? I don’t think one is harder than the other. I think they are different.
College is more about culture, development, recruiting.
NFL is more about scheme, picking players
I mean Lovie Smith was a pretty good NFL coach and abysmal in college. Kliff Kingsbury was abysmal in college and is doing okay so far in the NFL.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:43 pm to geauxtigahs87
quote:he’s the college JT Curtis
Because it's easier and more fun when you can recruit elite talent and go into every game significantly more talented than the opposition.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:44 pm to TomRollTideRitter
quote:the NFL is about adjustment and QB play
NFL is more about scheme, picking players
Posted on 1/11/21 at 10:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
Hot take alert : I don’t believe Saban is an elite game day coach.
He’s had the most talented team on the field every game for 12 years and still loses games.
But you can’t argue with his program level dominance.
He’s had the most talented team on the field every game for 12 years and still loses games.
But you can’t argue with his program level dominance.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:21 pm to slackster
So you're saying that Saban is the only thing between 10-12 years of undefeated football and what they have now... You're an idiot
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:08 am to RLDSC FAN
Cause they don't give a frick if he yells at them in the NFL...actually, they laugh
Posted on 1/12/21 at 5:51 am to Big L
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He’s not a good enough coach. He doesn’t win with coaching...he wins on talent.
Yes - that’s why Les Miles has all those championships
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 5:52 am
Posted on 1/12/21 at 6:00 am to RLDSC FAN
He doesn’t have a salary cap at Bama
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