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re: Russell Westbrook is the mvp

Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:14 am to
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:14 am to
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His assist:TO ratio is 1.95, 53rd in the NBA. Currys is 2.6 and 26th in the NBA.
personal preference but I like turnover ratio better. it measures the percentage of a players possessions that end in a turnover. I believe that is more informative than assist/turnover ratio.

curry - 10.6
westbrook - 11.3
harden - 12

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And let's not act like the only reason he's turnig the ball over a lot is because of his usage rate this year. He's consistently been near the top of the NBA in turnovers. And there's nothing misleading by saying he leads the league in turnovers...
oh don't get me wrong i'm not saying Russell isn't and hasn't been a TO machine. just saying it's not as bad this year as people are making it out to be given how much he handles the ball. that's why I believe turnover ratio is a more credible stat because it takes that into account.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61512 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:15 am to
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He may not win it because people are dumb....but he is undoubtedly the most valuable player to his team this year



I still think Harden deserves the award not only because his team has a better record, but because he's played about 15 games more than Westbrook, and he has been equally as valuable to the Rockets considering Dwight Howard has missed about 30 games this season. I know Kevin Durant has missed a ton...but that goes back to the record comparison.
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 1:15 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61512 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 1:16 am to
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Who has been more valuable?

Curry is the only answer


Curry has had Klay Thompson who happened to be an All-Star btw on his team. Rockets didn't have any All-stars besides Harden. Klay Thompson has missed 4 games this year.

In the 4 games Thompson missed....

@ Phoenix Loss
@. Denver Loss
vs. Atlanta Win
vs. New Orleans Win
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 1:27 am
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 2:41 am to
It'll be Harden or Curry as it should be.


Westbrook has been great, but
A) will be the 8th seed or miss playoffs, while Houston and GS have been at the top
B) deceiving stats. Yea, a triple double but on 33% shooting. He's not as efficient as his PER states.
C) Davis deserves to be mentioned just as much as Westbrook and it's bullshite that he isn't. His season has been as impressive as anyone, if not more so.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 3:20 am to
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If your are going to say "which team would have won less games if this dude wasnt here?" Its westbrook.

Harden has an "estimated wins added" of 19.9 this season, which is the highest in the league.

So yeah, he literally has added the most wins to his team this season. Yes, Westbrook has missed games, and that affects that statistic. However, being on the floor is a credential for MVP consideration, IMO.

As of now, I would vote Harden or Curry. Westbrook 3rd.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 3:33 am to
The Thunder have eclipsed 100 points in 22 consecutive games.


That is literally insane to me. Even the Warriors have scored under 100 points five times since the Thunder last have.

Obviously, I'm sure in the late '70s and early '80s, teams used to go entire seasons without scoring under 100 points. But in this day of basketball, 22 seems like a lot to me.
This post was edited on 3/21/15 at 3:35 am
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82099 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 4:28 am to
his turnovers aren't that bad as pointed out earlier in the thread, he's distributing and rebounding the ball well however he's taking too many shots and not making many and more importantly he missed way too may games.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13076 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 6:54 am to
What was the cavs record last year?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84091 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:26 am to
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What was the cavs record last year?


Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:43 am to
Lol no. James harden is playing elite AND carrying his team to a top 3 seed while missing an all star player.

Westbrook is missing an all star player and is the 8th seed and might miss the playoffs. If Westbrook was carrying his team to a high seeding it would be different.him missing like 15+ games doesn't help his case either. I think he has zero shot at winning it. Will get some votes though
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
11002 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 7:51 am to
We still have over a dozen games to go, but I'd be fine with Harden, Curry, or Westbrook. They're all deserving. As a Warriors fan, I'd give it to Curry, but if Harden or Westbrook get it, that's fine. What an awesome season we've witnessed.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:34 am to
you people are morons.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:43 am to
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you people are morons.
I don't think westbrook is the mvp at this point but it is far from moronic to think he has a case
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27353 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:48 am to
rondo obviously made this thread to troll.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8790 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:51 am to
Lebron is still the MVP
Posted by JW6
Member since Jul 2013
1579 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 9:56 am to
Harden is your MVP.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:00 am to
quote:

He may not win it because people are dumb..
I don't know if you are dumb are not, but you are most certainly basketball dumb.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27884 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:04 am to
There's a difference between "are" and "or" :)
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:06 am to
According to the Rockets fans on this board it's Harden's unless he like gets indicted for murder or something.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52985 posts
Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:12 am to
Go try to fit in on the OT with racist posts or something, kid.
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