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Ross Tucker: Joe Gibbs is the GOAT, he won Super Bowls with three different non-HOF QBs

Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:00 pm
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Saban’s dominance in his respective class of football has drawn comparisons to that of Patriots head coach Bill Belichick in the NFL.

Belichick has more championships than any other coach in the Super Bowl era, and has New England in position — three wins away — to potentially add a sixth Lombardi Trophy to its trophy case.

Surely other coaches come to mind in the discussion of Greatest Of All Time: Bill Walsh, Don Shula, Chuck Noll, George Halas, Tom Landry and Vince Lombardi.

Ross Tucker — a former Redskins offensive lineman and current NFL analyst — says the comparisons are all wrong. Actually, he says there is no competition for the coaching G.O.A.T.

“[The Patriots have] got pretty clearly in my mind the best quarterback of all time, and they’ve got one of the best coaches of all time,” Tucker told 106.7 The Fan’s Grant Paulsen and Danny Rouhier. “Not the best coach of all time, because, as we’ve talked about before, the best coach of all time is Joe Gibbs.”

“And I’m not pandering to your audience,” Tucker told the D.C.-based hosts. “But all week, all I’m hearing is, ‘Nick Saban or Belichick? Belichick or Saban? Who’s the best ever?’ It’s Joe Gibbs.”

“I mean, the guy won three Super Bowls with three different non-Hall of Fame quarterbacks, went to another one, and then made the playoffs with three other quarterbacks,” he said. “How many years did Gibbs even coach? Like ’82-’93, and then came back for like four years, right?

“So you’re telling me, like, in 15 or 16 years, the guy went to the playoffs with six different quarterbacks — it was an aging Brunell, Jay Schroeder, a Todd Collins/Jason Campbell combo platter when I was there in ’07 — and then wins the Super Bowl with three non-Hall of Fame [quarterbacks]?”

“Think about the other coaches,” Tucker said. “Vince Lombardi: Okay, great. Bart Starr. Bill Belichick: Okay, all five Super Bowls, Tom Brady. Thank you. How about Bill Walsh? All three Super Bowl victories, Joe Montana, the second-best quarterback of all time.

“Like, I’m more impressed with Gibbs. And I was there with him. He put me on IR or whatever. I’m not saying it because I’m like tight with Gibbs. He’s not like my guy. I’m just looking at it objectively. Joe Gibbs has the most impressive resume of any football coach ever.”


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Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:03 pm to
If he was such a goat he would have made a goat qb
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:05 pm to
Gibbs in the 80's was awesome.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:07 pm to
That's not a terrible argument.
Posted by tWildcat
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:08 pm to
He has 4 championships in NASCAR too. The guy knows what to do to win.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:10 pm to
It's true
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:12 pm to
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That's not a terrible argument.


Certainly a compelling argument for sure, where I give Hoodie the edge is him thriving in the salary cap/free agency era and being the GM, Joe never had to adjust much in his era and his Redskin teams remained among the cream of the crop generally, so much harder to sustain a dynasty in today's context compared to the past. Joe's still a legendary coach fasho.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:15 pm to
Pretty good arguement.

His olines mustve been dominant
Posted by little billy
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:23 pm to
Joe Theisman was one of the best qb's in the NFL for sure. Doug Williams actually lit it up in that Super bowl. Who else did he win with? Jay Shraeder (sp?)
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Waffle House
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:34 pm to
Mark Rypien
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:34 pm to
Isn’t the 1991 team considered among the best ever?
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:35 pm to
Yeah, it is. Margin of victory was absurd IIRC
Posted by little billy
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:38 pm to
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Mark Rypien


That's right. shite he was good too actually. Not trying to diminish Gibbs but he did have some good qb's
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:44 pm to
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Isn’t the 1991 team considered among the best ever?


They were the subject of one of my first OP sports topics, good times
Posted by McVick
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:48 pm to
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Gibbs in the 80's was awesome.


Didn't he also win with the replacement players during the 1987 season?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:49 pm to
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Yeah, it is. Margin of victory was absurd IIRC


30-14 average 1991 Washington Redskins regular season score

34-13 average playoff score
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:50 pm to
Yeah wow..i just referenced your topic in my post.

I enjoyed your historical posts.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:50 pm to
thats fricking silly. In a stacked NFC
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:52 pm to
In a cruel twist of fate, the one Lions team with a playoff win in 60 years had to run into that buzzsaw.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:56 pm to
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Yeah wow..i just referenced your topic in my post.

I enjoyed your historical posts.



FINALLY someone acknowledges GREATNESS
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