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re: Report: Hamlin did not have pre-existing cardiac issues; collision was cause of incident
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:53 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:53 pm to RobbBobb
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Sounds like Damars heart still needs work
You’re making the assumption that it’s his heart that still needs rehab and not the fact he likely had multiple broken bones and soft tissue damage after receiving CPR for over 9 minutes.
You don’t know anymore then the person you’re accusing as a “liar”. Trying to pass off your own assumption as fact.
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 12:54 pm to RobbBobb
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Sounds like Damars heart still needs work
It’s pretty standard for anyone who was intubated and sedated to undergo some rehab for general strengthening and pulmonary rehab. They’re not just gonna be like hit the gym hoss and good luck.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 1:13 pm to BluegrassBelle
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You don’t know anymore then the person you’re accusing as a “liar”. Trying to pass off your own assumption as fact.
I looked for this type of response to that person that said the heart was good, and was going home instead of rehab. Didnt see one
Posted on 1/11/23 at 1:44 pm to Rhino5
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Didn’t he get the Covid booster days before the incident?
The poster who tweeted that had a photoshopped profile picture and promptly deleted his tweet and account like hours after posting it. It was an obvious fake account. It hilarious because all of the vaccine conspiracy theorists have the audacity to call other people sheep
Posted on 1/11/23 at 1:47 pm to St Augustine
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They’re not just gonna be like hit the gym hoss and good luck.
Anytime there’s a confirmed cardiac arrest, heart attack, or stents placed in the coronary arteries, a patient will go through cardiac rehab with supervised physical activity by medical professionals. It’s pretty gold standard and has shown very positive results in trials following these types of events
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:49 pm to OKtiger
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hilarious because all of the vaccine conspiracy theorists
What is this? Are you saying the phase 3 results published by Pfizer are legitimate?
Posted on 1/11/23 at 2:57 pm to lsupride87
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I am saying people that have heart attacks to the point of dying and being revived don’t walk out the hospital 9 days later without surgery and a release to cardio rehab
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Doc- Pride is in a thread on the MSB saying the fact Hamlin was released after only 9 days is proof that it was caused by the hit and not because of any pre-existing condition. Is that statement true?
His answer:
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No. To the contrary, the fact it took 9 days is indicative of a prolonged secondary issue (or issues). Those could be d/t anything from preexisting cardiac pathology to resuscitative trauma/complication. Regardless, 9 days is a long time. By comparison, patients often leave the hospital 7 days after coronary bypass surgery.
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:00 pm to OKtiger
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Anytime there’s a confirmed cardiac arrest, heart attack, or stents placed in the coronary arteries, a patient will go through cardiac rehab with supervised physical activity by medical professionals. It’s pretty gold standard and has shown very positive results in trials following these types of events
I know. I’m a physical therapist that works in cardiac icu
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:01 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Hmmmmmm, I wonder what the fluid in his lungs was from. Gee golly
Those could be d/t anything from preexisting cardiac pathology to resuscitative trauma/complication.
Why don’t you ask the doctor what o actually said. How common would it be for someone that had cardiac arrest that needed resuscitation not have to have any procedures done for their heart when it’s from actual heart disease or defects
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:05 pm to lsupride87
dude a dr said your assertion was the opposite of reality. It’s why this entire thread is silly. You very well may be correct, but with the info you currently have it is pure supposition. I’m fact, the basis of your supposition is the exact opposite of correct, according to the MD on this board. 
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:06 pm to BBONDS25
The doctor said 9 days is long unless “resuscitation trauma” which we know happened.
Ask him him common it would be that no procedure is required when you have sudden cardiac arrest on a heart with disease or defects.
Or I’ll do it for you
Ask him him common it would be that no procedure is required when you have sudden cardiac arrest on a heart with disease or defects.
Or I’ll do it for you
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:08 pm to Me
quote:Agree. That was a routine hit.
The same kind of "collision" that happens 100s of times every season?? BS
Almost every single instance of commotio cordis happens in teen boys that get hit with a baseball in the chest. A 90 MPH baseball hitting the chest of a not fully developed kid's unprotected chest VS a 15 MPH helmet hitting a pad protected chest. These are worlds apart.
The percent chance of this being commotio cordis is the same percent chance that I give 'demonic possession' as the cause of his issue.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:08 pm to lsupride87
This video explains things pretty well. If this doctor is correct it’s an extremely rare case of chest impact at the exact right moment.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:13 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Agree. That was a routine hit.
Almost every single instance of commotio cordis happens in teen boys that get hit with a baseball in the chest. A 90 MPH baseball hitting the chest of a not fully developed kid's unprotected chest VS a 15 MPH helmet hitting a pad protected chest. These are worlds apart.
The percent chance of this being commotio cordis is the same percent chance that I give 'demonic possession' as the cause of his issue.
It's also about the timing of the hit. I'm not sure why people keep missing that bit of info.
In commotio cordis, it has to be an impact at the chest at a certain point in the heartbeat. Which is why a "routine hit" doesn't matter as much as when the hit occurred during the person's heartbeat. That's what makes it rare.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 3:29 pm to BBONDS25
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BBONDS25
Question, if in fact his cardiac arrest was due to heart disease or defect and not at all due to the hit, how common would it be to need no procedure done after an event like this?
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I don't think that is likely, but, yeah, if it was the case he'd probably buy a procedure... ablation, bypass, aicd, etc.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 4:32 pm to lsupride87
Horseshite
Posted on 1/11/23 at 4:34 pm to lsupride87
bullshite.
Barely any collision.
They just expect everyone to eat up this horseshite narrative and not ask questions huh?
Confirms to me it was the vaccine.
Barely any collision.
They just expect everyone to eat up this horseshite narrative and not ask questions huh?
Confirms to me it was the vaccine.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 4:41 pm to lsupride87
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But for starters I disagree. It was an awkward tackle attempt where he exposed his entire chest and got nailed right in the middle of it. I can’t think of another time seeing a defense absorb all impact in his exposed chest like this.
Then Earl Campbell would have killed about 50 NFL defenders.
Posted on 1/11/23 at 4:56 pm to blueboxer1119
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bullshite.
Barely any collision.
They just expect everyone to eat up this horseshite narrative and not ask questions huh?
Confirms to me it was the vaccine.
Serious question. Is there anything that would convince you that it was in fact not the vaccine.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 8:19 am to QJenk
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Serious question. Is there anything that would convince you that it was in fact not the vaccine.
If they could conclusively show why a healthy young person had a cardiac event a week after a booster shot.
They cant.
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