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re: Report: Duke admin, Coach K, ignored sexual assault allegations against player
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:47 am to massiveattack
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:47 am to massiveattack
Do you guys even Duke Lacrosse?
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:49 am to goldenbadger08
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Here comes everyone to the rescue of of Coach K because it's Duke basketball and there's no way they can do no wrong but Joe Pa and Penn State football deserved what they got, amirite?
these aren't even close to comparable and it's idiotic of you to even imply such a thing
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:49 am to massiveattack
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I wonder who this anonymous source is. He or she is not pulling any punches
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“It should have been a long time ago. [Krzyzewski’s] never [dismissed a player] before,” the anonymous affiliate said. “I don’t think he knew where the line was. I think he really didn’t want to do it. It’s pretty incomprehensible.”
Roy Williams
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:50 am to goldenbadger08
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Um.. how about report it??? Same thing.. It went unreported.. Vacate his wins.
They did report it to the school administration you fricking idiot.
"The allegations were also brought to the attention of Sue Wasiolek, assistant vice president of student affairs and dean of students, according to the anonymous affiliate."
Everyone was made aware but there was nothing they could do if the girls wouldn't pursue the case. Moron.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 11:51 am
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:30 pm to REG861
Plenty of butthurt in this thread from anti-Duke fans.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:31 pm to massiveattack
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voiced allegations publicly, but neither filed a complaint through the Office of Student Conduct or took legal action through the Durham Police Department
That's about all you need to know
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:33 pm to Hurricane Mike
Sexual assault if very traumatizing experience. I get that. But it doesn't trump due process.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:37 pm to TigerintheNO
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If the women didn't report the allegations what can the Duke coaches/administration do?
What should Paterno have done when none of the kids reported to him what happened?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:45 pm to massiveattack
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Both students voiced allegations publicly, but neither filed a complaint through the Office of Student Conduct or took legal action through the Durham Police Department.
And this is part of the reason rape victims end up not being taken seriously.
If they wanted him gone then they should've filed a complaint with the appropriate authorities. It sounds like they didn't have a problem notifying everybody else and their mother. So why not the police?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:46 pm to tokenBoiler
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quote: If the women didn't report the allegations what can the Duke coaches/administration do? What should Paterno have done when none of the kids reported to him what happened?
Paterno had an independent witness who witnessed rape, not second hand allegations. Nice try
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:47 pm to tokenBoiler
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What should Paterno have done when none of the kids reported to him what happened?
Apples and coffee tables at this point. We're not even talking the same fruit.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:49 pm to Black n Gold
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Posted by Black n Gold Plenty of butthurt in this thread from anti-Duke fans.
Disagree. Most people are looking at this rationally
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:54 pm to tokenBoiler
The only way this would be similar to your idiotic comparison is if Jon Scheyer had witnessed Sulaimon in the act of raping someone in the Duke locker room.
A student at one of the top universities in the country can make the decision to report the case to either the police or the university authorities. The student chose not to. Other than reporting the situation to someone like White or Wasoliek (which seems to have happened considering she spoke with several people involved, so someone let her know what may have gone down), I don't see what anyone in the athletic department was obligated to do.
Now would I keep a guy on the team with two different accusations, albeit accusations with no reporting to authorities? Probably not. But that's a grain in the sand compared to Penn State.
Only a moron would suggest it is a coach's obligation to tell the police about a second hand rumor from what a student said at Common Ground.
A student at one of the top universities in the country can make the decision to report the case to either the police or the university authorities. The student chose not to. Other than reporting the situation to someone like White or Wasoliek (which seems to have happened considering she spoke with several people involved, so someone let her know what may have gone down), I don't see what anyone in the athletic department was obligated to do.
Now would I keep a guy on the team with two different accusations, albeit accusations with no reporting to authorities? Probably not. But that's a grain in the sand compared to Penn State.
Only a moron would suggest it is a coach's obligation to tell the police about a second hand rumor from what a student said at Common Ground.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:58 pm to massiveattack
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Not legally, but ethically he could've done something
while employing Roy Williams this strikes me as funny.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:03 pm to massiveattack
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Not legally, but ethically he could've done something
So we don't give a shite, ethically, about the player being accused?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:04 pm to massiveattack
Perhaps the accuser has absolutely no merit.
Duke has already had an issue with someone accusing their athletes or sexual assault allegations.. AND WE ALL SEE HOW THAT TURNED OUT. The players were innocent!
Duke has already had an issue with someone accusing their athletes or sexual assault allegations.. AND WE ALL SEE HOW THAT TURNED OUT. The players were innocent!
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:31 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
That is true.
Although there is more than one accuser here
Although there is more than one accuser here
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:28 pm to Keys Open Doors
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A student at one of the top universities in the country can make the decision to report the case to either the police or the university authorities.
Irrelevant in every way
Edit: The irrelevant part is that it's a top university. Doesn't matter if it is Harvard or Montgomery Community College
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:32 pm to Buckeye06
They have agency and knowledge of the law that an 11 year old would not.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:48 pm to massiveattack
quote:There's nothing to investigate.
but neither filed a complaint through the Office of Student Conduct or took legal action through the Durham Police Department
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