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re: Report: Belichick maybe out this week?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:12 pm to Dadren
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:12 pm to Dadren
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Prime showed up in Boulder with, what, two years of HC experience? Nearly completely turned that roster over and improved year over year.
He didn't come close to winning 8 games in year one at CU. How they did in year two has zero to do with how UNC is doing in year one under BB.
I'm not even saying BB is doing an acceptable job. I thought it was a terrible hire from the get go and said so when it was announced. I'm simply saying if you turn over almost the entire roster to then expect to win 8 games is just not realistic.
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:15 pm to Dr RC
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I'm sorry but acting like 31 new players is the same as 71 is ridiculous and you know it.
UNLV is undefeated with 50 transfers
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:22 pm to Dr RC
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He didn't come close to winning 8 games in year one at CU. How they did in year two has zero to do with how UNC is doing in year one under BB.
I’m saying he improved. A year before he got there, they won one game. He gets there, turns over the roster and wins 4.
And yes, nobody was realistically expecting UNC to get better than “bowl team” level but you’re not supposed to get significantly worse, even if you turn the whole roster over. And even if you want to give him a pass on the turnover (I don’t cause it’s almost all his fault), how’s it supposed to get better when he’s demonstrating in real time that the best he can do his bring in dudes who have no business playing in the P4?
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I'm not even saying BB is doing an acceptable job. I thought it was a terrible hire from the get go and said so when it was announced. I'm simply saying if you turn over almost the entire roster to then expect to win 8 games is just not realistic.
I don’t think replacing 70 guys is materially different than replacing 50. In either case, it’s probably most of your two-deep so you still need to find roughly the same number of guys (30-40) that can play right away.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:27 pm to Dadren
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And yes, nobody was realistically expecting UNC to get better than “bowl team” level but you’re not supposed to get significantly worse, even if you turn the whole roster over. And even if you want to give him a pass on the turnover (I don’t cause it’s almost all his fault), how’s it supposed to get better when he’s demonstrating in real time that the best he can do his bring in dudes who have no business playing in the P4?
UNC gave Bill $20 million for this season in NIL money and this is the product he put on the field.
That’s the important part that this retard wants to ignore. They’re spending with the big programs while giving him a reasonable expectation of winning around 8 games in the ACC with teams like Charlotte, Richmond, Wake Forrest, and Syracuse on their schedule.
And he’s putting a G5 level roster on the field.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:27 pm to Dr RC
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He has 70 new players this year. Expecting a roster w/that much turnover to win 8 games is crazy.
A lot of the turnover was Belichick’s choice. The new staff ran off a bunch of guys that would have stayed, and then replaced them with worse players.
UNC’s talent level last year was not so horrible to justify the mass purge. Belichick/Lombardi just thought they were going to out-evaluate everyone else, I guess.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:27 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Again, UNLV was 11-3 last year, their schedule this year is pure cake, and they are
Indiana State (2-4) - 38-31
at Sam Houston (0-5) - 38-21
UCLA (1-4) - 30-23
at Miami Ohio (2-3) - 41-38
at Wyoming (2-3) - 31-17
Air Force (1-4)
at Boise State (3-2)
New Mexico (3-2)
at Colorado State (1-4)
Utah State (3-2)
Hawaii (4-2)
at Nevada (1-4)
They aren't finishing unbeaten and if they win 8 it's b/c of the laughably poor schedule they lucked out with getting.
So you got ONE example that's kind of sort of but not really the same.
Also, one more time since its really difficult for you,all I'm saying is to EXPECT to get better with a roster overall like that is unrealistic.
I'm not sure why that;s so hard for you to accept or why your being such a fricking smug dickhead about it.
Indiana State (2-4) - 38-31
at Sam Houston (0-5) - 38-21
UCLA (1-4) - 30-23
at Miami Ohio (2-3) - 41-38
at Wyoming (2-3) - 31-17
Air Force (1-4)
at Boise State (3-2)
New Mexico (3-2)
at Colorado State (1-4)
Utah State (3-2)
Hawaii (4-2)
at Nevada (1-4)
They aren't finishing unbeaten and if they win 8 it's b/c of the laughably poor schedule they lucked out with getting.
So you got ONE example that's kind of sort of but not really the same.
Also, one more time since its really difficult for you,all I'm saying is to EXPECT to get better with a roster overall like that is unrealistic.
I'm not sure why that;s so hard for you to accept or why your being such a fricking smug dickhead about it.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:28 pm to Dr RC
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I'm simply saying if you turn over almost the entire roster to then expect to win 8 games is just not realistic.
Tell that to LSU fans after 2019
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:29 pm to Dr RC
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Again, UNLV was 11-3 last year, their schedule this year is pure cake, and they are
Goalposts [Moved]…. Again
Did this happen?
- yes here are the examples
THOSE DONT COUNT BECAUSE I DONT LIKE THEM
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They aren't finishing unbeaten and if they win 8 it's b/c of the laughably poor schedule they lucked out with getting.
UNC plays Richmond, Charlotte, a shitty Wake Forrest team with a first year coach, a bad Syracuse team, a worse NC State team than the last couple of years, Stanford who may be the worst P4 team in the country, and already got waxed by a UCF team that sucks
And they’re going to be lucky to win 6. You’re all over the place and can’t make a coherent argument
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I'm not sure why that;s so hard for you to accept or why your being such a fricking smug dickhead about it.
Because you’re wrong
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Deion went 9-4 his first year at Colorado
Deion went 4-8 his first season at Colorado.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Not sure why you are so hard up to completely reject any kind of nuance in an argument but go head and make everything black and white if it's really that important to you.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:36 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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UNC plays Richmond, Charlotte, a shitty Wake Forrest team with a first year coach, a bad Syracuse team, a worse NC State team than the last couple of years, Stanford who may be the worst P4 team in the country, and already got waxed by a UCF team that sucks
And they’re going to be lucky to win 6. You’re all over the place and can’t make a coherent argument
Ok brah. Whatever you say. We should have all expected them to win 8 games year. Sure sure.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:37 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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So then how would there be a bunch of recruiting violations?
with the current rules in place, it seems like it's really hard to commit recruiting violations outside some level II and III type stuff (calling kids during dead period, etc.)
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:39 pm to Dr RC
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Not sure why you are so hard up to completely reject any kind of nuance in an argument
You’re using some arbitrary number and undefined criteria to dismiss the several other coaches that have had success in year one using the portal
And completely ignoring the fact that they used the portal so heavily because North Carolina raised a shite ton of money for Bill to spend to upgrade the roster. They are funding him to spend with the big boys and he’s putting a shite roster on the field. In the name of some “process” created by some 66 year old nepo retard that spent the last decade working in tv
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:39 pm to Dr RC
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We should have all expected them to win 8 games year. Sure sure.
Yes, that’s a completely realistic expectation given all of the facts in this case such as the money they spent and their schedule.
But in reality, they’re getting their shite kicked in by a bad UCF team and can’t move the ball on offense
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:45 pm to Dr RC
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How many teams have actually has a winning season w/a first year coach who turned the roster over the way Belichick did?
Gus Malzahn made the national title game in year 1 after taking over a team who went 3-9 (0-8) the year prior, and that was before the portal/NIL which makes it really easy to rebuild a team quickly.
TCU had been pretty damn bad for 4-5 years. Sonny Dykes took over and went to the CFP title game in his first year.
If we're talking about first year coaches winning 7-8 games, which was a reasonable expectation for UNC, the list gets a lot longer
Josh Huepel did it at Tennessee after a run of suck for 15 years under Kiffin/Dooley/Butch/Pruitt.
Brian Kelly had a roster of like 38 players when he took the LSU job. LSU had had a losing record over the prior 2 seasons. He won the SEC West his first year on the job.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:53 pm to JPLSU1981
The complete 180 on this guys reputation is amazing.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:54 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:55 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Lombardi may have surpassed Bill Polian for number one dumbass in football for me
Lombardi is closer to Derek Ponamsky than he is Bill Polian.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:55 pm to 1999
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