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re: Rapides Parish is trying to torpedo ASH as a football powerhouse…
Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:57 pm to Earnest_P
Posted on 4/1/25 at 2:57 pm to Earnest_P
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They should be able to attend school where they want but have to play sports in their zoned school.
Except that is explicitly not allowed in the LHSAA.
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Posted on 4/1/25 at 3:59 pm to karmew32
quote:go check st aug 1975
Ponchatoula had the legendary 2021-22 senior class that saw 8 players go on to play D-I football.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:08 pm to Antonio Moss
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Except that is explicitly not allowed in the LHSAA.
So they want to bar kids from playing in their community school? Why?
Posted on 4/1/25 at 4:18 pm to Earnest_P
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So they want to bar kids from playing in their community school? Why?
You can’t play for schools you’re not attending
Posted on 4/1/25 at 5:07 pm to Earnest_P
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So they want to bar kids from playing in their community school? Why?
Because one of the fundamental rules of the LHSAA is that you have be a bona fide student of the school you are playing for.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 5:19 pm to Antonio Moss
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Because one of the fundamental rules of the LHSAA is that you have be a bona fide student of the school you are playing for.
Can you see the logic where that rule makes perfect sense when a kid is trying to play for some athletic powerhouse ten miles away while attending a school a block over but not in the opposite situation?
Kids shouldn’t be denied academic opportunities. I’m with that principle in theory.
Sports are secondary to the purpose of public education and therefore only allowing them to play for their local school would be an acceptable limitation on the individual in service of the greater good of increased parity.
My kids are in private school, so I’m not claiming personal harm on this, but in our area, the one decent public baseball school is taking all of the travel kids who aren’t in private, and it’s doing fatal harm to the other public programs. It’s bullshite.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 7:31 pm to Earnest_P
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Can you see the logic where that rule makes perfect sense when a kid is trying to play for some athletic powerhouse ten miles away while attending a school a block over but not in the opposite situation?
No. Your idea makes absolutely zero sense. In fact, if the prevailing thought is to disentangle athletics and academics, then just get rid of high school-based sports and let kids play club like the rest of the world does.
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Sports are secondary to the purpose of public education and therefore only allowing them to play for their local school would be an acceptable limitation on the individual in service of the greater good of increased parity.
Allowing or forcing? Because your proposal is forcing them to play for a certain school based on completely imaginary and arbitrary lines. And that is regardless whether that school allocates resources or support to that particular sport.
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My kids are in private school, so I’m not claiming personal harm on this, but in our area, the one decent public baseball school is taking all of the travel kids who aren’t in private, and it’s doing fatal harm to the other public programs. It’s bullshite.
I’m of the opinion that high school sports are actually really, really important in terms of a kids growth. I would bet most of us would agree that some of the most important life skills that we use everyday weren’t learned in a high school classroom but rather in the arena of high school sports. And I think it’s a pretty crappy idea that a kid should be forced into a bad sports programs because the local bureaucracy refuses to allocate adequate resources to it.
Posted on 4/1/25 at 8:39 pm to Antonio Moss
Deleted. Too much negativity.
This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:39 pm to Antonio Moss
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I’m of the opinion that high school sports are actually really, really important in terms of a kids growth. I would bet most of us would agree that some of the most important life skills that we use everyday weren’t learned in a high school classroom but rather in the arena of high school sports. And I think it’s a pretty crappy idea that a kid should be forced into a bad sports programs because the local bureaucracy refuses to allocate adequate resources to
Resources are allocated - just poorly utilized
Rest of paragraph GOLD
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:28 am to chalmetteowl
I assume Kevin Cook at Tioga has something to do with this.
Dude is so full of himself.
Dude is so full of himself.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:28 am to Broski
Cook resigned from Tioga last November
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:27 pm to Bigcat71360
I posted the story on another forum but, they tabled the motion at the School Board Meeting yesterday. Its going to come back up but probably in some other form.
Honestly, if you ask me, it's not about dismantling ASH football it's actually an attempt to help them. Even though it's a complete non starter because of the LHSAA...it's an idea about getting Rapides out of being Select and in turn, ASH, Tioga and potentially Pineville out of Division I Select.
I want you to all see RPSB is thinking somewhat athletically and understand, they are attempting to put together a Cenla 5A district. ASH would be the biggest beneficiary of the weakest district in 5A and getting them out of the select bracket would give them a run at a title almost yearly while Bachman is there. Its why they have been putting so much money in athletic facilities over the last few years aside from pure necessity.
Honestly, if you ask me, it's not about dismantling ASH football it's actually an attempt to help them. Even though it's a complete non starter because of the LHSAA...it's an idea about getting Rapides out of being Select and in turn, ASH, Tioga and potentially Pineville out of Division I Select.
I want you to all see RPSB is thinking somewhat athletically and understand, they are attempting to put together a Cenla 5A district. ASH would be the biggest beneficiary of the weakest district in 5A and getting them out of the select bracket would give them a run at a title almost yearly while Bachman is there. Its why they have been putting so much money in athletic facilities over the last few years aside from pure necessity.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:19 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Charles Smith won't allow it.
Nothing is allowed to take any spotlight from basketball. Lord forbid a basketball player want to play football, he'd have to miss fall workouts with the basketball team. There have been a number of extremely skilled athletes that were strongly encouraged to not play football. There have also been a number of extremely skilled basketball players zoned for Rapides that somehow end up on campus at Jones Avenue... well before open enrollment was a thing. Its funny how that seemed to happen.
Nothing is allowed to take any spotlight from basketball. Lord forbid a basketball player want to play football, he'd have to miss fall workouts with the basketball team. There have been a number of extremely skilled athletes that were strongly encouraged to not play football. There have also been a number of extremely skilled basketball players zoned for Rapides that somehow end up on campus at Jones Avenue... well before open enrollment was a thing. Its funny how that seemed to happen.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 1:35 pm to LABred08
So they want to be school of choice in Rapides Parish but not play select? Yeah, that dog ain't going to hunt.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:40 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Charles Smith won't allow it.
Nothing is allowed to take any spotlight from basketball. Lord forbid a basketball player want to play football, he'd have to miss fall workouts with the basketball team. There have been a number of extremely skilled athletes that were strongly encouraged to not play football. There have also been a number of extremely skilled basketball players zoned for Rapides that somehow end up on campus at Jones Avenue... well before open enrollment was a thing. It's funny how that seemed to happen.
1. Yes, he is the reason football can't get where they need to go and as long as the principal is positioning his son to succeed him (he's now asst. athletic director), nothing will change.
2. It's less about who's playing and not and much more about the money. Football used to hold its own on the budget, even when we were bad but Smith was always the AD. The neglect to one program over the other was obvious.
3. He's always let kids play more than one sport. There are plenty that played football and baseball too throughout his tenure. What he does do...is not start them or cut minutes, because they aren't there for everything in the summer and fall. Not always, but most of the time.
4. Been a thing said for years that we got kids we shouldn't have, yet, I think we never got sanctioned by LHSAA until 2021 or 22 and that's with the LHSAA having gone through the entire athletic dept previously on multiple occasions. But tell the truth, all the while, it was kids that should have been at Peabody for football, that were at ASH and Tioga before open enrollment. It happened all over Rapides. If the RPSB and LHSAA overlooked it for some, why not others?
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:42 pm to AP83
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So they want to be school of choice in Rapides Parish but not play select? Yeah, that dog ain't going to hunt.
What made me know it's about getting out of select, is that it's not just ASH's district rep who presented the motion. Tioga's was also in on it and they definitely want out of Select Division I too, being that they are really a 4A school but got lumped in to Select DI by count.
It's all a moot point for Tioga anyway. ASH and Pineville are 5A. Peabody will be 5A next cycle.When they stop allowing kids to ASH or Pineville because they are overcrowded, they will be at Peabody or Tioga. They will all be 5A soon enough, even though Tioga will do everything they can to avoid that too.
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 4/2/25 at 2:50 pm to LABred08
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He's always let kids play more than one sport. There are plenty that played football and baseball too throughout his tenure. What he does do...is not start them or cut minutes, because they aren't there for everything in the summer and fall. Not always, but most of the time.
Yes, this was the statement I was trying to make, but just didn't say it as well as you.
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Been a thing said for years that we got kids we shouldn't have, yet, I think we never got sanctioned by LHSAA until 2021 or 22 and that's with the LHSAA having gone through the entire athletic dept previously on multiple occasions. But tell the truth, all the while, it was kids that should have been at Peabody for football, that were at ASH and Tioga before open enrollment. It happened all over Rapides. If the RPSB and LHSAA overlooked it for some, why not others?
There is no doubt everyone else is doing it as well, especially for those other sports.
Posted on 4/2/25 at 3:34 pm to LABred08
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Tioga's was also in on it and they definitely want out of Select Division I too, being that they are really a 4A school but got lumped in to Select DI by count.
The LHSAA recently passed legislation that would make only 5A schools part of Division I
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