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Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:34 pm to CocoLoco
quote:And you ranked Luck 4th?
We are talking about right now. Like right fricking now.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:34 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Here's where the Saints fans jump in and blame everyone else on the team
Well, Brees certainly wasn't the one giving up 40+ points and a perfect QB rating to Kirk Cousins.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:35 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
In this scenario Luck is healthy
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:37 pm to CocoLoco
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In this scenario Luck is healthy
He was healthy to start the season and sucked then too.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:37 pm to REG861
He's had a rough couple games.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:38 pm to CocoLoco
quote:Like at the beginning of the year when he was 31st in passer rating, only ahead of Peyton Manning?
In this scenario Luck is healthy
ETA: Rankings Luck 4th after the year he's had is pretty damn funny considering all the insults you've been dropping - dumbfricks, too stupid to talk sports with, laughably retarded, moron, etc.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:39 pm to Muahahaha
Wilson
Roethlisberger
Newton
Brees
Luck
Ryan
Rivers
Cutler
Stafford
Roethlisberger
Newton
Brees
Luck
Ryan
Rivers
Cutler
Stafford
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:39 pm to theducks
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Is it bad that I feel weird when agreeing with you?
Why is that?
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He'll throw for yards and even TDs but as he gets older his interception count will increase.
He has always been a QB that throws a good bit of interceptions. But he was better in post season play as well. 24:6 TD to INT ratio in the post season is incredible.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:39 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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He's had a rough couple games.
He played fine against the Redskins. He had one INT that was on him, the other went right off Marques Colston's stone hands and into a Redskin's players bread basket.
I was in the woods camping for the Texans game so not sure what the frick happened there, but it looks like he did not play well and I won't make excuses for that.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:40 pm to REG861
Yea but every team has shortcomings, Cam doesn't have any WRs, Russ doesn't have WRs either. The title of this thread could've been "rank these qbs from favorite to least favorite".
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:43 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
We don't know how he would've turned out the rest of the season. He played very well against a top 2 defense in the league and beat them. He is more than capable. He threw 40 TDs last year and had an exceptional season. His first 3 years in the league were improvements each season. This year he did start off rough, but I believe he would've ended the year solid had he of been healthy. We will never know though.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:43 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Yea but every team has shortcomings, Cam doesn't have any WRs, Russ doesn't have WRs either. The title of this thread could've been "rank these qbs from favorite to least favorite".
It's not about shortcomings excusing a QB's performance. I wouldn't put Brees fist on that list right now. You were implying that the Saints lost the Redskins game because Brees had a poor performance, which is absolutely untrue, as Kirk Cousins stat line proves.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:44 pm to Muahahaha
Ben Roethlisberger
Russel Wilson
Cam Newton
Drew Brees
Jay Cutler
Matt Ryan
Jay Cutler
Phillip Rivers
Andrew Luck
Matt Stafford
I'm assuming they're all healthy...but really after the top 4 it's a crap shoot
Russel Wilson
Cam Newton
Drew Brees
Jay Cutler
Matt Ryan
Jay Cutler
Phillip Rivers
Andrew Luck
Matt Stafford
I'm assuming they're all healthy...but really after the top 4 it's a crap shoot
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:47 pm to Boomshockalocka
I looked at it as each of these guys having a playoff caliber team. I did rank Big Ben first. I value experience in these situations. Experience + past performances. I could see Newton moving up on my list with a nice playoff run (he has the team around him, and they SHOULD win the NFC with how good the defense is), but I still wouldn't take him ahead of guys that have won it all: Ben, Wilson and Brees... because A) I believe they are better QBs and B) They have shown more (won titles)
If that's not fair, well then I dunno.
If that's not fair, well then I dunno.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:48 pm to REG861
It was a big game and he didn't play well enough to say "Hey that's the guy I want to start a big game for me" imo. Then in the next big game (an even bigger one) he didn't get his team into the end zone.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 4:51 pm to CocoLoco
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We don't know how he would've turned out the rest of the season.
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I bring facts to the table my brother.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 5:03 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
So 15 touchdowns in not even half a season. HIs last game was his best of the year, which he could've built on. We don't know how it would've turned out.
The denver d gave Rodgers the worst game of his career, Luck played very well against them. Something had been off with Luck all season and he played against very good to great defenses like BUF, NYJ, NE, CAR, DEN in 5 out of his 7 games
He would've had ATL, TB, PIT, JAX, HOU, MIA and TN left to play, none of which would I say are better than the 5 defenses above. Kinda hard to judge a guy off of 7 games, 5 of which against some of the best defenses in the league, when I am pretty sure he had been hurt since either the 2nd or 3rd game.
The denver d gave Rodgers the worst game of his career, Luck played very well against them. Something had been off with Luck all season and he played against very good to great defenses like BUF, NYJ, NE, CAR, DEN in 5 out of his 7 games
He would've had ATL, TB, PIT, JAX, HOU, MIA and TN left to play, none of which would I say are better than the 5 defenses above. Kinda hard to judge a guy off of 7 games, 5 of which against some of the best defenses in the league, when I am pretty sure he had been hurt since either the 2nd or 3rd game.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 5:11 pm to Boomshockalocka
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'Right now' Brees hasn't looked too hot in his teams last 2 big games and now the team has no shot at the playoffs.
No shot isn't quite accurate. I used the Playoff Machine and found a path. If we win our last four games we finish 8-8. Under that scenario, we just need the Browns OR Rams OR Ravens to upset Seattle and we're in. (That assumes the better team wins the other games.)
LINK
Posted on 12/3/15 at 5:34 pm to Muahahaha
Cam Newton
Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton
Russell Wilson
Cam Newton
All others in any order (doesn't matter)
Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton
Russell Wilson
Cam Newton
All others in any order (doesn't matter)
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