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Question on the NFL Games Operation Manual and Fines Levied in the Past
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:36 pm
First off, I don't care either way about the kneeling. If the players want to kneel they are more than welcome to. It doesn't bother me.
However, this is an excerpt from the NFL Games Operation Manual regarding the playing of the national anthem and the possible penalties that could be incurred for failing to adhere to the rules:
We all know the NFL supports Breast Cancer Awareness Month every October by the pink uniform accessories the players are allowed to wear. However, it appears this support is only given for 4 weeks throughout the season due to the fines they levied against DeAngelo Williams back in 2015:
So breast cancer awareness only matters in October?
What about domestic violence awareness?
Didn't the NFL just suspend Ezekiel Elliott 6 games for domestic violence? Why would they fine someone bringing awareness to this issue? Because of a rule regarding uniforms?
What about mental illness?
Again, this violated the NFL rulebook in regards to uniform wearing.
Where's the consistency here? It's not okay to violate rules regarding uniforms, but it's ok to violate other rules in the rulebook?
Seems kind of counterproductive to me.
However, this is an excerpt from the NFL Games Operation Manual regarding the playing of the national anthem and the possible penalties that could be incurred for failing to adhere to the rules:
quote:
“The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
“During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.”
We all know the NFL supports Breast Cancer Awareness Month every October by the pink uniform accessories the players are allowed to wear. However, it appears this support is only given for 4 weeks throughout the season due to the fines they levied against DeAngelo Williams back in 2015:
quote:
Running back DeAngelo Williams received a first-offense uniform violation of $5,787 for wearing "Find the Cure" in his eye black in honor of breast cancer awareness. He has worn the eye black for years, he told ESPN.
So breast cancer awareness only matters in October?
What about domestic violence awareness?
quote:
Steelers cornerback William Gay was fined by the NFL for wearing purple shoes in the Steelers’ 23-13 loss in Kansas City on Sunday.
October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and Gay wore purple to represent his mother, who lost her life in a domestic violence incident.
Didn't the NFL just suspend Ezekiel Elliott 6 games for domestic violence? Why would they fine someone bringing awareness to this issue? Because of a rule regarding uniforms?
What about mental illness?
quote:
When Chicago Bears wide receiver Brandon Marshall first decided to wear green shoes to raise awareness for mental illness during Thursday Night Football last week, the NFL told him he wouldn’t be allowed on the field with the shoes on. The league relented after public pressure, but it promised Marshall he’d be fined.
Marshall, who was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder in 2011, wore the shoes anyway. And the NFL followed up on its threat, fining Marshall $10,500 for violating the league’s uniform rules.
Again, this violated the NFL rulebook in regards to uniform wearing.
Where's the consistency here? It's not okay to violate rules regarding uniforms, but it's ok to violate other rules in the rulebook?
Seems kind of counterproductive to me.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 9:46 pm
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:38 pm to TideSaint
The "rule" has been debunked already.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:44 pm to Tigers0891
quote:
The "rule" has been debunked already.
Fixed the title to identify the correct manual. This is from Time Magazine:
quote:
"The league’s Game Operations Department uses the manual to govern the conduct of home clubs, to ensure they protect players and provide the conditions for a fair and fan-friendly contest," reads the NFL's website. "Clubs face warnings and other penalties for noncompliance."
The NFL rulebook makes no mention of the national anthem. But the game operations manual does.
Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:
The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
An NFL spokesman confirmed this. How has it been debunked.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:50 am to TideSaint
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An NFL spokesman confirmed this. How has it been debunked.
"NFL spokesman".
Where is said manual? Why hasn't a copy been produced?
This Time article refers to the initial debunked article.
No other reporter is claiming their "sources" back this claim up.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:31 am to magildachunks
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Where is said manual? Why hasn't a copy been produced?
LINK
It's not a PDF of the manual, but it's a pretty comprehensive review of what is in the manual from the NFL's own website.
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The league goes to great lengths to provide a consistent, fair, and TV- and fan-friendly product. It’s imperative that the games are decided on the field, between the two teams. The NFL Football Operations “bible” is the Game Operations Manual — nearly 200 pages of procedures and policy for regular season games alone.
The Game Operations Manual is one of the league’s three comprehensive policy manuals for member clubs — the other two are for administrative and business operations, and media and public relations — and, by necessity, it is often military-like in its precision and astonishing in its thoroughness.
To act like this thing doesn't exist is fricking ludicrous.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:42 am to TideSaint
They already covered this last year when Kaepernick was kneeling. There isn't any rule that states that NFL players can't kneel; however, the NBA does have a rule against it
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 11:42 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:49 am to Packer
quote:
There isn't any rule that states that NFL players can't kneel
No, there isn't.
But there is one that says players must be on the field before the National Anthem plays.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:50 am to TideSaint
What are we supposed to be upset about?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:58 am to TideSaint
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No, there isn't.
But there is one that says players must be on the field before the National Anthem plays.
Looking at the NFL rule books all it says is that players must be on the field 10 minutes prior to kick off. This is usually when the anthem is played.
ETA: Link to rule book LINK
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:58 am to TideSaint
The reason that they want players on the field is because they don't want to start of the game to be delayed if everybody is just chilling in the locker room during the anthem.
If they actually impeded the game beginning on time, that would provoke a possible fine, suspension or draft choice loss.
If they actually impeded the game beginning on time, that would provoke a possible fine, suspension or draft choice loss.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:20 pm to TideSaint
fake news
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:27 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The anthem wasn't even played at every game until 2009.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:39 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Was the anthem not played or was it that players weren't on the field until 2009?
The anthem wasn't even played at every game until 2009.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:42 pm to shel311
I'm pretty sure it was only played during big games before then.
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