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re: Pretty tough to argue against Manning being the GOAT at this point
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:01 pm to Tactical1
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:01 pm to Tactical1
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Even I hate this argument, and I don't mean to take anything away from him, but throughout his entire career, Manning got to take advantage of being in divisions of teams that were never consistent and just downright horrible.
lol, no. Not even close.
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:03 pm to benhamin5555
Let's not forget Drew, he has some years left, too.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:03 pm to SabiDojo
I know, it's spot on.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:05 pm to TigerBait1127
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When was that? Brees has been almost perfect in the playoffs
22 touchdowns to 4 interceptions while completing 67% of his passes and 331 ypg
For Drew, 06 NFCCG @ Chi. He made some pretty poor decisions in that one. But you're right he's been excellent in the playoffs for the most part.
Drew will certainly belong in GOAT discussion if he plays at an elite level for a few more years and picks up another ring. In fact I'd say he has a better chance than Aaron Rodgers.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:06 pm to benhamin5555
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In fact I'd say he has a better chance than Aaron Rodgers.
Why? Rodgers is younger, meaning he has more time to accumulate stats/accomplishments, and he's outperformed Drew just about every season
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:10 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Manning has the same number of SB titles as Trent Dilfer.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:10 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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Why? Rodgers is younger, meaning he has more time to accumulate stats/accomplishments, and he's outperformed Drew just about every season
Bold part is just blatantly false. He was better in every season except 2010 and 2012, and maybe 2011. Just because the media doesn't suck his dick like they do to Rodgers and Brady, doesn't mean he was outperformed.
Brees has the better resume of the two so far. And he's been elite for longer, which indicates to me he has a better chance of staying at the top for a long time.
Rodgers has had the benefit of better receivers and defense also.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:11 pm to benhamin5555
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Drew will certainly belong in GOAT discussion if he plays at an elite level for a few more years and picks up another ring. In fact I'd say he has a better chance than Aaron Rodgers.
I don't think so, and I'm a Saints fan.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:12 pm to LasVegasBandit
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Ben Roethilisberger (2005)*
Philip Rivers (2007)*
Philip Rivers (2008)*
Drew Brees (2009)*
Mark Sanchez (2010)*
Joe Flacco (2012)*
* - denotes that Peyton was outperformed by opposing QB
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:13 pm to benhamin5555
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In fact I'd say he has a better chance than Aaron Rodgers.
only if Rodgers falls off or gets hurt
He's been on an unreal tear the last few years.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:13 pm to benhamin5555
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Why is it that Manning is the only one that comes under fire for average/bad playoff performances?
Because he's been doing it his whole career. Manning is definitely one of the best QBs to ever play the game, but legends are made in the playoffs. That's why I have Montana at #1.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:14 pm to kywildcatfanone
Manning will likely have the all time touchdown record by next year, and may possibly break the single season record again this year. He will also never lead the all the time INT record like Favre. Counting super bowl wins is good for arguing who the best team of all time is, but not the best QB.
Peyton can win on any team (Indy, Denver, Tenn).
Peyton can win on any team (Indy, Denver, Tenn).
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:14 pm to RollTide1987
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but legends are made in the playoffs.
Agreed.
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That's why I have Montana at #1.
Eh....
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:15 pm to Purple Spoon
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Brady has 5 conf titles and 3 rings and has played with average receivers.
YOu did see what happened to their respective offenses and teams, when each were out right? Pats = playoffs. Colts = worst in the league.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:15 pm to benhamin5555
Bleacher Report? 
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:15 pm to TigerBait1127
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only if Rodgers falls off or gets hurt
He's been on an unreal tear the last few years.
So has Drew Brees, and for a longer time.
You really can't definitely put one over the other at this point. Time will tell who is the better QB.
I do think Brees has more longevity though, as he does not rely on athleticism and arm strength as much as Rodgers.
This post was edited on 9/23/13 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:17 pm to benhamin5555
Peyton is the GOAT, and the past tense of lead is led.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:18 pm to benhamin5555
Brady has damn near twice as many playoff wins as Peyton.
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:18 pm to Newgene
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Peyton can win on any team (Indy, Denver, Tenn).
wut? If you're bringing college into this he could never win the big one when it mattered
Posted on 9/23/13 at 9:19 pm to benhamin5555
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You really can't definitely put one over the other at this point.
that was the entire point of my original post. I'm not comparing their careers at this point.
Rodgers is younger and has now put up 7 straight great seasons and has only had double digit interceptions twice in that stretch (11 and 13).
Brees has 7-9 great seasons himself, but Rodgers was better sooner
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