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re: Presser tomorrow, more coaches caught in Next wave

Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:56 pm to
I haven't followed too closely today. Why is this an FBI case beyond just a regular NCAA case?
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:58 pm to
Money/bribes in multiple states/crossing state lines. If anything, I guarantee you the people involved in moving the money around or receiving it weren't reporting or paying taxes on it.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:58 pm to
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They didn't sign a single kid from Ohio. Let alone Cincinnati. Their top two kids are from Indiana and Maryland


Didn't realize that. Yeah that does sound sketchy then
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:00 pm to
Bribes
Money laundering
Tax evasion
Criminal conspiracy
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:00 pm to
Nice thing is I can safely assume Tulane isn't in the crosshairs.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:01 pm to
No car dealership involvement inAlabama?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:02 pm to
Tax evasion makes sense. The whole crossing state lines thing though, wouldn't every time a player from out of state gets paid become an FBI issue?
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:08 pm to
Every time adidas or an agent/financial planner paid a runner to pay a mom/uncle/cousin/handler/AAU Coach the player's "signing bonus" you have tax evasion, money laundering, bribery and criminal conspiracy charges.

The HC/ASST Coach arranging the transactions by identifying the recruits and authorizing the money pay outs makes it actionable by the University
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:10 pm to
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Bribes
Money laundering
Tax evasion
Criminal conspiracy



Tax evasion seems like the big one. I don't see how this is money laundering unless the source of funds is in question. In the Auburn case, if the financial planner got that $60k illegally, then it's 100% money laundering. If the source of funds is legitimate, then I don't see how it could be called money laundering.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:15 pm to
Michigan recruiting analyst is posting A LOT of stuff right now on rivals

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No, because I don't have the power of the FBI behind me (or wiretaps, etc.). I know what I've been told by impeccable sources.

– Like "Book" was so sloppy it was only a matter of time (Arizona), with details. We got skewered by some here for suggesting Sean Miller's program could be corrupt.

- A friend of mine literally saw the car issued to one in-state kid, and the school issued credit card he used to put gas in it.

– A $50K payout decades ago to a kid that changed the fortunes of one midwest program ("he was going to get that money wherever he went" ... maybe so, but he went to that school).

– The same school doing a "terrible job hiding the bodies" in landing a couple of five-star recruits over the last decade or so.

– An AAU program threatening to ruin a kid's chances for AA honors, etc., if he didn't got to the school they "chose" for him ... eventually leading him to change his pledge.

– An NBA player getting involved in steering kids to his alma mater by trying to get involved with the AAU circuit ... and "convincing" others to go there.

That's just the start.





Also hinting that a recruit was paid 20K to go to an sec school over UM

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A Michigan recruit who went to a "lesser" southern school got $20K, in addition to whatever the handlers got ... and people were pissed that JB (John Beilein) couldn't land him.
Posted by tigeroarz1
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:17 pm to
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Clemson makes more sense when you see that Merl Code used to play for them.
Off the top of my head I can't even remember the names of the two decent players we had drafted recently. I wished they got paid to hang around their senior years. I can't imagine Clemson's current program is involved aside from the Adidas employee/former player from the 90s. Adidas has a facility in Spartanburg, SC and that's where Merl Code was living.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:18 pm to
I was just reading that because coaches are working for publicly funded universities, them taking money makes it an FBI thing even before all the other stuff.


Still not sure it's the best use of FBI time, but it's interesting.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:20 pm to
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Nice thing is I can safely assume Tulane isn't in the crosshairs.


Probably not, but Ed Conroy was shady as frick ahd he had an assistant named Jeff Strohm for a couple of years who was also very sketchy. And I have this from an extremely reliable source. But I doubt they did anything FBI-worthy.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:21 pm to
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A Michigan recruit who went to a "lesser" southern school got $20K, in addition to whatever the handlers got ... and people were pissed that JB (John Beilein) couldn't land him.


My first thought is Yante Maten but I'd be shocked if Mark Fox played the AAU game
Posted by JasonMason
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:26 pm to
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– An NBA player getting involved in steering kids to his alma mater by trying to get involved with the AAU circuit ... and "convincing" others to go there.


Realistically who could this be? My first thought was Penny Hardaway. I don't following basketball recruiting at all, but I know Penny is involved in the AAU scene.

Edit: I re-read and it doesn't say former NBA player. Never mind. Although Penny would also be connected with Nike.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:30 pm
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:28 pm to
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Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:28 pm to
Kansas is so fricked
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:28 pm to
bruh does this involve dodge chargers or what
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:29 pm to
i've heard a rumor that black folk love dodge chargers
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:31 pm to
I'd buy that for a dollar
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