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re: Player of the Year in College Basketball?

Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by KCBasketball
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:06 pm to
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So the ACC is better this year than the Big East????


1 BIG 12 = 84.06 84.21 ( 1) 12 84.13 ( 1)
2 ATLANTIC COAST = 83.90 83.89 ( 2) 12 83.86 ( 2)
3 BIG EAST = 83.35 83.25 ( 3) 16 83.30 ( 3)
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:07 pm to
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Duke isnt just better in my eyes. They are better on the computers.

Yes I watch all college basketball. Nova's weakness was Duke's the past years, no inside presence. But I guess you knew that.

Based on your opinion? Because it hasnt shown on the court.



are we talking teams now, or player of the year???


I dont care if you think Duke is better. In fact i'd expect that. The only team you would ever think is better than Duke would be a team with Thaddeus Young on it.


I never argued anything about trios or teams. Im talking player of the year.

Turner would have run away with award had he not been hurt.

Wall is the best player on the best team in the country in my opinion. He's my #2

and Reynolds is one of the top scorers in the country on one of the best teams.

Scheyer is 4th or 5th on my list. I think the POY should be more efficient scoring the ball than he is.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:09 pm to
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Nova's weakness was Duke's the past years, no inside presence.


Didn't Nova make the Final Four last year without an inside presence????
Posted by KCBasketball
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

In fact i'd expect that.


Once again, they arent even on my final 4.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:12 pm to
I don't really like the metric, but when looking at points per shot (I checked this a minute ago), here is the breakdown.

The Villain-1.41
Scheyer-1.47
Wesley Johnson-1.41
Reynolds-1.58
Cousins-1.52
Damion James-1.43
Harangody-1.30
This post was edited on 2/21/10 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:12 pm to
LSU is my favorite team and they arent in my final 4 either. congrats
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:13 pm to
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I don't really like the metric, but when looking at points per shot (I checked this a minute ago), here is the breakdown.

The Villain-1.41
Scheyer-1.47
Wesley Johnson-1.41
Reynolds-1.58
Cousins-1.52
Damion Hames-1.46
Harangody-1.30



live by the 3, die by the 3
Posted by KCBasketball
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:14 pm to
Cunningham?
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:14 pm to
im pretty sure titus is all time points per shot leader
Posted by KCBasketball
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Scheyer is 4th or 5th on my list. I think the POY should be more efficient scoring the ball than he is.


He is mr efficient dude.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:16 pm to
Yeah, one of many reasons why I don't like the metric, but even Reynolds shoots 44% of his shots from 3. Scheyer is an absurdly high 54%, but the team is more balanced this year. I think they are at about 100 out of 300 D-1 teams.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

LSU is my favorite team and they arent in my final 4 either. congrats



AWESOME BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:20 pm to
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He is mr efficient dude.



he's a 42% overall from the field.

like i said, find the last POY to shoot that bad. TJ Ford maybe? You'd be hard pressed to find one to shoot that bad outside of him.


Redick for example, hit 47% of his shots from the field the year he won it.

Scheyer is a good player, he just doesnt match up in that regard to guys like Turner, Reynolds, or even John Wall.

Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:20 pm to
Only in his first two years.

His blog has brought him down unfortunately.
Posted by KCBasketball
Member since Dec 2008
3629 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:29 pm to
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Scheyer is a good player, he just doesnt match up in that regard to guys like Turner, Reynolds, or even John Wall.


Except in every analyst minds.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:37 pm to
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Except in every analyst minds.



then the analyst are stupid if they somehow think 42% is equal to

47%
48%
46%

I just don't know what to tell you dusty if you or the analyst think that.

ARe you going to tell me grass isnt green? that my shite isnt brown?

its pretty cut and dry
Posted by KCBasketball
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:40 pm to
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I just don't know what to tell you dusty if you or the analyst think that.

ARe you going to tell me grass isnt green? that my shite isnt brown?

its pretty cut and dry


The original POTY candidates were Johnson, Wall, Scheyer, Harongody.

Scheyer and Johnson were above the others,

The new one has Turner instead of Harongody.

You are right its pretty cut and dry.
Posted by KCBasketball
Member since Dec 2008
3629 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:43 pm to
FWIW Lester, zee will be in at around 5 since you really want to talk to him. He will probably start the Duke thread tonight as I play poker.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:44 pm to
you just said every analyst believes that Scheyer's FG% matches up with the other candidates in response to my 2nd to last post.



I dont even know what you are talking about now. you are all over the place.

"the new one"??? the new what?
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36755 posts
Posted on 2/21/10 at 2:44 pm to
Let's put it this way. Anyone who thinks john wall should win doesn't know jack shite about college basketball and is a media homer idiot.

Imo, it should be evan turner.
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