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re: PGA Tour disciplines golfers 'who have decided to turn their backs' on PGA for LIV
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:56 am to lsufb1912
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:56 am to lsufb1912
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It's only smoke coming from PGA Tour supporters. The Masters Tournament is 10 months away. Why would anyone expect them to make a decision on this now?
This alternative tour isn't exactly news to Augusta leadership. This has been in the works for 2 - 3 years, and I would expect an outfit like Augusta is well-prepared.
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:57 am to weptiger
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What, you can’t resign your employment or membership in a club or association?
the players who resigned aren't suspended. The players who didn't are. But yes, playing in an event you were denied approval to play is grounds for a suspension under their bylaws.
Read the letter. The players who resigned will be dealt with if and when they attempt to rejoin. For now, they're just not going to be allowed to play in any PGA events through sponsors exemptions or any other work-around.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:58 am to lsupride87
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But it AGNC bans the LIV players, are you still going to be team LIV?
I don't think that's what you were saying, but Yes?
Why would I refuse to watch a golf tournament just because 1 other tournament doesn't like it? You think I care what ANGC or the PGA Tour thinks about LIV?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:59 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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That's exactly what they can do according to some lawyers that reviewed it
Well, I'm a lawyer, and I think you either (A) misinterpreted what these lawyers allegedly said, or (B) they're hoping they can argue that and are putting up a strong front in the media for their clients.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:59 am to rlebl39
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Then maybe the PGA should let them play in both so it doesn't kill them? They are going to kill themselves by reacting the way they are to this. You are acting like it has to be one or the other. They can coexist by working schedules around each other and with them being completely different formats I really don't see them as competition. LIV is more of a side show where players are getting paid silly money that they will never be able to come close to on the PGA. Just let them do both and it's a win win for everyone in my opinion.
LIV isn't going to be paying such wild arse amounts of money just to have to work around the PGA tour schedule. They will 100% begin scheduling their tourneys during PGA tourneys. You are being extremely naive.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:59 am to AbuTheMonkey
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This alternative tour isn't exactly news to Augusta leadership. This has been in the works for 2 - 3 years, and I would expect an outfit like Augusta is well-prepared.
But why make a decision now? It's not needed and would seem like a knee-jerk reaction or just alignment w/ the PGA's stance.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:01 am to lsupride87
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Thats way off
Imitation due is around 40k and monthly dues around $500 a month
That’s a mid tier club rate at best
Damn, that's not bad at all.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:02 am to lsufball19
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misinterpreted what these lawyers allegedly said,
I did not
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they're hoping they can argue that and are putting up a strong front in the media for their clients.
Certainly could be this.
All I'm doing is relaying information. A couple of people were pretty shocked the Tour missed that in their bylaws this whole time.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:02 am to Dr RC
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They will 100% begin scheduling their tourneys during PGA tourneys. You are being extremely naive.
This. There is no way for them to expand to 16 or whatever tournaments a year and not start conflicting with big events on the PGA Tour. I honestly think it's amazing that people have completely bought everything Greg fricking Norman is selling them. When did he become a bastion of integrity and not just greed?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:02 am to ReauxlTide222
I highly doubt you know what the frick you are talking about gump
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:02 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I did not
then link what they said
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:03 am to lsufb1912
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But why make a decision now?
Well, if they wanted to be fair to the players, announcing it now let’s them know what will happen if they go to LIV. The fairest thing is to announce their decision early. If you read the USGA statement from yesterday, they basically said “we are letting LIV players play in the 2022 US Open” because changing the rules this late in the game isn’t fair
But the other hand, is AGNC just waits it out and hopes this is all sorted to where they don’t have to take a stance. But if they do that and it isn’t sorted, the later in the game they wait the more players would have joined
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:04 am to grizzlylongcut
quote:Yeh but they have a huge advantage because they have The Masters money
Damn, that's not bad at all.
Easy to keep dues down when you are getting billions
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:04 am to lsupride87
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But the other hand, is AGNC just waits it out and hopes this is all sorted to where they don’t have to take a stance. But if they do that and it isn’t sorted, the later in the game they wait the more players would have joined
I think they will wait to see what happens with the OWGR status which should be soon. If that's denied (which i think it will be), that does most of their (and the rest of the majors) job for them and all that would be left would be addressing exemptions LIV players have, which I'm sure they've been discussing how to deal with all along.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 11:05 am
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:04 am to lsufball19
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then link what they said
Im not linking podcasts or articles or going back and finding old tweets. Sorry.
I just said it could be a front by the players, just relaying information I've seen. If you don't want to take at face value the information I'm relaying (and again not even necessarily agreeing with) fine.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:07 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Im not linking podcasts or articles or going back and finding old tweets. Sorry.
Figured you'd say this
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If you don't want to take at face value the information I'm relaying
I haven't seen (or heard) the information you're relaying to tell you whether I'd take it at face value. You want me to take, at face value, your memory of what you think you read about someone else's legal opinion on a nuanced legal issue. Sorry, that's not something I think anyone should "take your word for"
Just like your statement that "it's not if, but when" the OWGR will grant LIV's application when all the board members of OWGR are members of the Tours trying to kill the league but you were unable to provide anything of substance to support that
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 11:09 am
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:08 am to lsufb1912
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This alternative tour isn't exactly news to Augusta leadership. This has been in the works for 2 - 3 years, and I would expect an outfit like Augusta is well-prepared.
But why make a decision now? It's not needed and would seem like a knee-jerk reaction or just alignment w/ the PGA's stance.
More likely they already made their decision, have been communicating it to those who have inquired (e.g., Danny Willett), and are publicizing it for their own strategic reasons.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:08 am to lsufball19
The thought of awarding points to a tour in which every player in the field is automatically guaranteed a finish for every tournament is ridiculous. The OWGR has such an easy out there. They board wouldn’t allow it anyway simply because they are representing a huge conflict of interest, but their denial is easy due to the fact above
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:10 am to lsufball19
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I'd take that with a grain of salt. And a lot of those not rich members have been members for decades.
That's what I was getting at with my first part of that post. I wonder if people can transfer their membership to their children.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 11:10 am to lsupride87
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The thought of awarding points to a tour in which every player in the field is automatically guaranteed a finish for every tournament is ridiculous.
And in a 54 hole event no less. They aren't getting approved, especially with who is on the board for the OWGR. It would defy logic for them to grant the LIV application for OWGR status
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 11:15 am
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