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re: Pete Rose has Requested His Ban be Lifted.

Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:28 am to
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:28 am to
There is good reason the bastard was banned from the game.

And I don't put coke, steroids or amphetamines past Rose like many in the board do. A person with his competitive nature did everything in his power to try and gain a competitive advantage. Only a sick frick would bet on baseball as a manager and then lie about it for decades. We still don't know all the details on Rose's ban either.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18148 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:54 am to
Betting a couple of games against your team is not as severe as juicing.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:36 am to
I'm thinking about writing a book.

MLB- "Generations Lost"

Those numb nuts will never understand most of America already believes cheating occurs in sports every day. Pete Rose didn't invent the concept.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9503 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 5:55 am to
Let Pete in!!!

Its ridiculous its been this long already. For those of you opposed to him being in, get off your freaking high horse. There are WAAAAY worse individuals that are in the HOF. His HOF acceptance will finally close a chapter in baseball that millions want to see. His HOF induction will be the highest attended HOF ceremony ever. Let the man in already!
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 7:21 am to
Was just flipping through the radio and they had a girl and a guy talking about this. The dude thinks Pete wants to play baseball again : casty:
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Betting a couple of games against your team is not as severe as juicing.




Did he ever bet against his team? I thought it was said that he always bet on the Reds?
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18148 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Did he ever bet against his team? I thought it was said that he always bet on the Reds?


Do you want to bet on pride or do you want a sure win?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21986 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:06 am to
I am not sure, so do correct me with the facts if I am wrong, but how exactly do we "know" that Rose only bet on the Reds? Are we going by his word only? If that is correct, then with Rose being a proven liar, why should we take his word on something this important? As for comparing his "crime" to the PED users: the ban on betting on baseball games is the #1 rule in MLB & has been for ever & ever. There is a sign in every ML clubhouse re betting. He broke the #1 Golden Rule. Then lied & lied & lied about it. And which proven PED users are in the HOF?
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
2335 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:15 pm to
So, you think every player in baseball juicing would be worse than every player betting on games? I disagree.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
7972 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:24 pm to
No. Lifetime ban.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15962 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

I'm fine with this as long as it's posthumous
Ppl like you suck
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12827 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:33 pm to
He's getting in this time, and here's why:

MLB to talk betting with owners

also, the all-star game is in cincinatti this year. Would be the perfect time to do it and not look like hypocrites.

Bet on it.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18148 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

So, you think every player in baseball juicing would be worse than every player betting on games? I disagree.


you mean to tell me cheating is better than gambling?
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18148 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:41 pm to
damn, i used to be such a stud.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:46 pm to
Worth noting that the HOF rule about people banned from MLB are ineligible for the HOF came about after Rose accepted his lifetime ban, just before he would have been placed on the ballot. That's kind of underhanded. Now, he should have known the ban would affect his HOF chances, considering Joe Jackson was never elected, but still.

Couple that with his transgressions occurring as a manager while he would be inducted as a player, and I think you can build a decent case that he should be in the HOF or at least that it shouldn't be out of the question.

As to the MLB ineligibility, Rule 21, part of which reads:
quote:

Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.


...has been posted in every MLB clubhouse for longer than Rose has been alive. He certainly can't plead ignorance on that one. Then he carried on the ridiculous denial charade for almost 20 years, camping out at the HOF during induction weekends. F him. The MLB ban should never be lifted.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12827 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 4:03 pm to
he should be allowed in the hall of fame but still be banned from the game-coaching/managing, etc.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21657 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 4:09 pm to
quote:


If McGwire can be in baseball, so should Pete.



Except steroids weren't outlawed when Mark played.

Gambling has always been outlawed and almost fricking ruined the game with the Blacksox scandal. Gambling is the biggest threat to the game and needs to be punished with a lifetime ban. Not a lifetime ban then feels sorry for hte piece of shite and let him in ban.
A life.time.ban.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21657 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 4:11 pm to
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That's so true. Those nerdy little jackholes who never played a lick but get to vote for the HOF probably wouldn't vote him in.



Before long the nerdy sabretards are gonna start using WAR as the end all be all for HOF worthiness. A man with 3000 hits will get left off some ballots because some defensive statistic didn't like him.
Posted by LL012697
Texas
Member since May 2013
4045 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 4:15 pm to
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Pete Rose has Requested His Ban be Lifted

Even if it gets lifted there's still a chance he won't get voted in. 16 people didn't think Greg Maddux was a HOFer, and some voters voted for legends such as Jacques Jones, JT Snow, Aaron Boone and Armando Benitez....I wouldn't put anything by them
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
2335 posts
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:25 pm to
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you mean to tell me cheating is better than gambling?













Using steroids is better than players throwing games.
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