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re: "Penn State Without Football"

Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20996 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:41 pm to
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It would be much worse for them to actually play. After the de commitments, the transfers that will without question happen, the beat downs they take year in and year out, will do more damage to the program on the field than cancelling for 2 years.


No chance. It would be better to get their asses beaten then simply stop altogether. If they cancel, all the stuff you mentioned would still happen just, but it would just start 2 year down the road and continue for a longer period of time.
This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:42 pm to
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here's another: penn-state-should-cancel-season-fire-staff

this chorus might get pretty loud


"Penn State has a chance to deliver a message and restore some of its soul."

that's the choice, either they do or someone does it for them
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9446 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:46 pm to
Cancel the season immediately! This thing has to stop. The depth and scope of this mess goes much further then anybody could have imagined. Sports has never seen anything like this. In order for the program to ever move forward, they need to break away for a couple of seasons and return under a whole new era of football. Let the current players transfer, forfit the remaining games and do whats right Penn State!!
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17429 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:49 pm to
I would only understand cancelling the rest of the season if the players supported it. The players did nothing wrong. This isn't an NCAA violation. This isn't even a sports story, even though there is an obvious sporting component to it. Just because university leadership failed doesn't mean the players should be punished. They represent Penn St, not JoePa and not Sandusky (who most have likely never met).
Posted by Interception
Member since Nov 2008
11089 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:51 pm to
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Tear down the locker room? Tear out the showers? Expunge Paterno, Sandusky and other names from the plaques, trophies and other memorbalia?


Not my point.
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I can't even process the full scope of it right, much less any realistic way of cleaning up any of it (except the firings, which need to continue in every direction), much less all of it?


They need to get a new staff in there pronto. Everyone must be fired and replaced with non Penn State people and that's everyone in the Athletic Department along with the President and his subordinates. Again, regime change at Penn State should start with canning all the coaches, canceling the season and hiring a new staff. (These coaches all knew about Sandkowsky) Start fresh by introducing a new coach in 2 weeks and try not to damage the program long term. That's what the BOTs should be working on ASAP.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:52 pm to
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ust because university leadership failed doesn't mean the players should be punished.


Once TV Sponsors see the boycott of the games it will end real quick.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26663 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:53 pm to
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Consider the cancellation of the football program for a period of at least two years

Hah

If you thought last night's riots were bad...
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37899 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:54 pm to
They'll have to continue football just to have the revenue to pay the victims and the additional lawsuits from every kid that has passed through the Second Mile program.

They're going to get sued by parents that are pissed because their kid was just put in danger by the university's inaction.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64036 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:55 pm to
The players need to realize the scope of the situation and realize them playing 3 more football games in nothing compared to the situation. If they can't realize that then this is a sad place for anyone who cares for humans to be. The attitude coming out of Penn St is clearly a big reason to me how this was perpetuated and went unnoticed for so long.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45677 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:56 pm to
im stunned at how deranged the cult of Pedofile Sanctuary University really is.

I hope this story never ends


These riots and that pic of him hugging this statue has sealed the pedofile sanctuary tag. it really was a sanctuary, and even being aware of the accusations, student still riot FOR him?

This will never be forgotten, nor even forgiven.
This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 4:59 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17429 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 4:58 pm to
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Once TV Sponsors see the boycott of the games it will end real quick.

Who's boycotting games?
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5401 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:00 pm to
There will be a Federal investigation of this issue from top to bottom. If the investigation proves this conspiracy went very deep, I could see the NCAA allowing all of the players to transfer out without having to sit out a year. Then that would cripple the football program for a while anyway.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9446 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:01 pm to
Life isnt fair and the players of Penn State need to understand that. Let them transfer without having to sit out a year. Thats fair enough!! This university HAS to pay the consequences for its selfish and criminal actions! Unfortunately palyers and fans will be caught in the middle but so be it! Casualties of war.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61860 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:09 pm to
I don't think they'll do that. But it just depends how many people really know about what happened.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17429 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Life isnt fair and the players of Penn State need to understand that. Let them transfer without having to sit out a year. Thats fair enough!! This university HAS to pay the consequences for its selfish and criminal actions! Unfortunately palyers and fans will be caught in the middle but so be it! Casualties of war.

I agree the university needs to be punished. But as a state institution, the school can be punished by a suspension of state funding and the firing of all university leadership. Again, this is not a sports story. If a similar cover-up had occurred in an academic program on campus a decade ago, it wouldn't be fair to shut down the program and tell the students to transfer if they want to continue their studies.
Posted by X
Member since Jun 2010
3516 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:22 pm to
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If a similar cover-up had occurred in an academic program

I think pursuit of a degree and participation in sponsored athletics are a bit different, although I see your point.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:27 pm to
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Who's boycotting games?



I sure as shite do not intend to support them, I don't think I'll be alone. I don't need their brand of athletics
Posted by X
Member since Jun 2010
3516 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:31 pm to
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I sure as shite do not intend to support them, I don't think I'll be alone

There will be cancellations of sponsorships on a level not seen since Tiger Woods IMO.
Posted by songofthesword
lexington, ky
Member since Sep 2011
3582 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:33 pm to
jimrome Jim Rome
Former NFLer & advocate for victims of sexual abuse Heath Evans told me PSU's football program "needs to be shut down." jimrome.com/junglehighligh…
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9030 posts
Posted on 11/10/11 at 5:33 pm to
I've thought that if things are ugly Saturday with students rioting etc the BOT will really look bad for having let the game go on.
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