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re: Oregon State's Luke Heimlich goes undrafted
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:29 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:29 am to ProjectP2294
quote:Agreed. This is the first I've commented on it since I first saw it. Didn't think it would get this much play, tbh.
I've got story fatigue on this issue. I want to be able to listen to a podcast about the draft or the CWS and not hear about a guy molesting his cousin over the course of two years. Not a lot to ask
Here's my opinion:
He's a POS. Period. No way around that. But our laws don't dictate that these kinds of people stay locked up forever and, for him, not at all. So if he's going to be a part of society, I'd rather him be able to support himself and get the help/support necessary for that to happen. He's no use homeless and jobless. He's good at baseball. I'm not sure a team will give him a shot now, but if they do, I'm not going to be upset about it.
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:32 am to ScrapPack
quote:
He will fit right in in Japan.
He'll do fine in Japan. The POS will make a ton of money there and should stay there.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:37 am to Nissanmaxima
frick him very much!!!Sex criminal!!! 
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:39 am to ell_13
quote:
-Only 3% of juvenile offenders repeat the offense.
I wish people would stop saying this. Do you really believe 97% go on to never do this again? They have no way of knowing this.
It should read as "Only 3% of juvenile offenders were repeat convictions"
If we have learned anything about rape or child molestation is that a ton of these cases can go on hidden forever or for years.
Ex. Penn State, Cosby.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 8:40 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:41 am to Mystery
quote:If you read the article, the stats aren't compiled using convictions.
Only 3% of juvenile offenders were repeat convictions
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:42 am to ell_13
quote:
If you read the article, the stats aren't compiled using convictions.
Not reading it but how is it possible they know they never acted again then?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:43 am to Mystery
quote:If you're not gonna take the time to educate yourself, why should I do it for you?
Not reading it
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:45 am to ell_13
Because you brought the info here.
I just don't see how they can know without another conviction or without monitoring them full time.
I just don't see how they can know without another conviction or without monitoring them full time.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:46 am to ForeverEllisHugh
I bet you don't enjoy being apart of said registry do u?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:47 am to ell_13
Only 3% of juveniles repeat the offense? Maybe after they are caught. But doing it over and over and over for 2 years is repeating the offense.
And he did not serve his punishment because, as far as I know, the girl's father did not kill or castrate him.
And he did not serve his punishment because, as far as I know, the girl's father did not kill or castrate him.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:47 am to Mystery
quote:So. It. Could. Be. Read.
Because you brought the info here.
You want me to just quote it all here? Seriously?Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:48 am to ell_13
quote:
If you read the article, the stats aren't compiled using convictions.
Right and they should be which is the point. Otherwise don't use those dumbass stats
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:48 am to Terry the Tiger
quote:
Only 3% of juveniles repeat the offense? Maybe after they are caught. But doing it over and over and over for 2 years is repeating the offense.
And he did not serve his punishment because, as far as I know, the girl's father did not kill or castrate him.
This.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:53 am to Terry the Tiger
quote:Again, I'm not defending the guy. I'm only relaying studies and articles.
Only 3% of juveniles repeat the offense? Maybe after they are caught. But doing it over and over and over for 2 years is repeating the offense.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:53 am to Terry the Tiger
quote:
And he did not serve his punishment because, as far as I know, the girl's father did not kill or castrate him.
The girl's father must not be in her life but if he is he is an extreme pussy.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:54 am to Howyouluhdat
quote:They should be what?
Right and they should be which is the point. Otherwise don't use those dumbass stats
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:59 am to GeeOH
quote:
GeeOH
I hope you never have a daughter
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:00 am to ell_13
quote:
"Research shows the longer someone goes without engaging in these type of offenses, the less likely they are to do it in the future. After a couple of years pass and the person hasn't committed the offense, (he) is very unlikely to do so.
"The recidivism rate for juveniles adjudicated of a sex offense is less than 3 percent. Multiple studies across multiple states, including Oregon, all landed in the 2.5 to 3 percent range in terms of re-offense rates — and those percentages are usually figured by arrests, even without conviction."
Figured by arrest. Once again, we know rape and child molestation cases can go hidden for a number of reasons, no charges at all. So those numbers are bull shite, they have no way of knowing if they do not repeat just because of getting caught.
Edit: But yes I read that as a conviction. So the line itself is correct. But it is not some staggering number that makes me think he is rehabilitated or should be forgiven.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:01 am to Walt OReilly
quote:
hope he has a good support grou
I don't. I hope he just ends it
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:06 am to ell_13
quote:
They should be what?
Using convictions
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