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Old BCS Poll vs Week 9 AP Poll

Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:37 pm
Posted by LSUTIGERS74
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
312 posts
Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:37 pm
For fun, decided to see how the 2005-13 BCS setup compared to current AP poll, used 1/3 AP (standing in for Harris), 1/3 Coaches, 1/3 computers. Computers are Colley, Bradley-Terry and RPI. No margin of victory, just wins, losses and who you played.

Biggest movers: UCLA up to 3, Georgia down to 8. UTSA ends up 24th with one AP vote.

Miami

Ohio State

UCLA

Indiana

Notre Dame

Utah

Kentucky

Georgia

BYU

Texas

Bama

LSU

Wake Forest

Ole Miss

Texas Tech

What was interesting if I took out AP and Coaches, UTSA (24) jumped into the Top 10 with computer only grading.

This post was edited on 10/27/26 at 1:39 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:40 pm to
Is UCLA really that highly rated by the computers?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:41 pm to
I’d be willing to bet that lack of a loss with a “P4” schedule is what is really boosting the computer numbers
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:41 pm to
But computers took that into account
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:45 pm to
Half the Ap voters are trolling for attention with their votes so the BCS is pretty useless.
Posted by LSUTIGERS74
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
312 posts
Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:47 pm to
With you on "half the AP voters are just trolling"

The crazy part is if I took out AP and Coaches polls, the computers at full had UCLA #1 and UTSA jumped from 24th to 17th.
Posted by LSUbub12
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
633 posts
Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:50 pm to
In hindsight, the BCS formula worked out really well for the most part but when the humans didn’t like something, we continued to tweak it.
After the 2003, they gave more weight to the polls rather than the computers instead of just making a few minor tweaks.

The major problem was voters drastically moving teams up or down to mess with the formula.
For example certain coaches voting Oklahoma state out of the top 5 in the final poll before selection Sunday.

Back on track, I’d rather they bring back the original bcs formula which added more weight to the computers to figure out the playoff teams and seedings over a committee which just adds more potential human bias and error to it.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:56 pm to


quote:

The crazy part is if I took out AP and Coaches polls, the computers at full had UCLA #1

quote:

With you on "half the AP voters are just trolling"

OK. How many of you guys would have UCLA at #1?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
81104 posts
Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

12
In hindsight, the BCS formula worked out really well for the most part but when the humans didn’t like something, we continued to tweak it.
After the 2003, they gave more weight to the polls rather than the computers instead of just making a few minor tweaks.

The major problem was voters drastically moving teams up or down to mess with the formula.
For example certain coaches voting Oklahoma state out of the top 5 in the final poll before selection Sunday.

Back on track, I’d rather they bring back the original bcs formula which added more weight to the computers to figure out the playoff teams and seedings over a committee which just adds more potential human bias and error to it.


24 team playoff needs to be solely by computer rankings. 12 should be as well.
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 1:59 pm to
Your poll looks a little off

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This post was edited on 10/27/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Your poll looks a little off
He used three computers. Not all of them
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 2:04 pm to
That's the computer poll only model.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/27/26 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

BCS


1998 Tennessee football:

13-0
Posted by LSUTIGERS74
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
312 posts
Posted on 10/27/26 at 2:10 pm to
I should have clarified on computer models used, Colley is one of the original six and only one I found publicly available. The other five were private formulas , so I subbed in Bradley Terry and RPI using the same rules (no margin, wins/losses and schedule). As close to BCS era as I could get.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:36 am to
5 of the 6 should be publicly available

Massey Composite
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
21191 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:40 am to
Yeah I updated with the correct one

Their website explains how they calculate it. 5 computers, coaches poll, & AP Poll instead of Harris
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