re: Oilers uniforms are back

he/family owns the rights, the mcnairs have expressed less than zero interest in paying for the rights

Sure it would be nice if the city of Houston somehow still maintained their rights to something they never ever owned

but when the Oilers left Houston nobody thought a team was gonna come back as quickly as they did I think some of you forgetting when the NFL expanded into Houston everybody assumed the team was really going to LA how Houston got that deal in large part is why the team and the deal sucks so much for the county /city



The deal's , conversations , money that exchanged hands for Houston to get that franchise ahead of LA ohhhhhh boy thats a story, I could get killed for


I'll just say was LA 's inability to get their act together but two was the way that the mcnair's and their relationship with the Bush family and the political powers in Texas and in Houston at that time forced no one else could even pretend to be a potential owner in Houston the taxpayers and the fans got frickED by the mcnair's and the NFL
And the Houston livestock show and rodeo and the influence they have over politics had no small part in all that

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OWLFAN86

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Been waiting on you to chime in!

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not Adam's fault but is Bob Lanier's fault

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Yep. And the irony of ironies is that the city ended up paying just as much or more for the stadium for the sack of shite organization currently residing on Kirby Dr.

Full disclosure. I was a long suffering Oilers fan. Steelers broke my heart in the 70s, lived the Glanville clown years, suffered through 35-3, and finally Montana and the Chiefs kicked me in the nuts once and for all. And I hated Bud from the time he fired Bum to replacing Moon with Cody fricking Carlson. But I didn’t hate him enough to lose the team. He was a buffoon, unlikable and greedy, but no different than any other owner would have been. And true to form, he picked a horrible time to go to battle over a new stadium. Also I’m not antiTexans…I pull for them but don’t have anything close to the same fandom as the Oilers.

I don’t really understand why the uproar now. The Titans have worn Oilers throwbacks multiple times before the one helmet rule went into effect. I actually think it has a lot to do with the current state of the Texans.

And re the Browns, I think a condition of Modell moving them to Baltimore was that he had to leave the name, records, colors, etc in Cleveland who I believe had been promised a franchise when the Browns left. I believe the city and season ticket holders made this happen. Houston was never guaranteed another franchise and in fact would not have one now if the city of LA had not been so inept. I don’t remember any such outcry at the time to keep the name, colors etc in Houston. Maybe there was but I’m not remembering.

OWLFAN86 Great posts, appreciate your knowledge and insight. I 100% agree Lainier is the #1 villain but there are no good guys here and I don’t think we should let Adams off so easily he was not pushed out against his will. Sure he was willing to pay some of the cost of the new stadium but what like 25%? Also didn’t he threaten to move in the 80s unless they upgraded the Dome? which lead to removing the scoreboard (the only unique feature) less than a decade before he decided he need a new full stadium. Did he pay for that? And while it’s incredibly stupid to say the Oilers didn’t deserve a new stadium after KC loss (John McClain jokingly blamed Joe Montana for the Oilers leaving). It’s also completely lacking in any PR skills to announce the proposed stadium so soon after that especially with KC coming a year after the Buffalo debacle.

The irony here is (and maybe it’s why the Adams are so bitter and petty) is the Texans are substantially more valuable than the Titans. Bud could have stayed and tried to work it out, he could have offered to fully pay for a new stadium. If he had, him and his family would have been even more wealthy, instead he took the short term gain and spent 3 years playing to no fan support in 3 different cities

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Thank you but I need to correct one misassumption in your statement I know a lot of people think that the Astrodome removed the iconic scoreboard and put in the seats because of Adams and the Oilers but that was actually a plan by the Houston Sports Association which is a different organization the Harris County Houston Sports Association the Houston Sports Association were the owners of the Astros and operator of the dome and they removed the scoreboard and put in the seats because the NFL had indicated they needed that improvement if they ever were to get a Super Bowl which we know never happened the one Super Bowl that had been played in Houston before that point was played at Historic Rice Stadium


boom knowledge

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I know a lot of people think that the Astrodome removed the iconic scoreboard and put in the seats because of Adams and the Oilers but that was actually a plan by the Houston Sports Association

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Good to know. But the Oilers did want more seats did they not? and iirc Adams threatened to move to Jacksonville around that same time.

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The irony here is (and maybe it’s why the Adams are so bitter and petty) is the Texans are substantially more valuable than the Titans.

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A significant portion of the value of the Texans is the contract that they have with Harris County for the stadium and all the money that the team can make off of all the uses non-football that take place at the stadium now called NRG Again it gets back to the desperation the community felt in getting a team and the very good job the NFL did at holding the expansion over Houston's head and basically getting the politicians that bend over and take it up the taxpayer's arse in order for the NFL to locate the expansion here

combining the NFL with the Houston livestock show and rodeo was a deal Adams was never going to get because again he did not get along with the people in Houston that are necessary to make that happen

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A significant portion of the value of the Texans is the contract that they have with Harris County for the stadium and all the money that the team can make off of all the uses non-football that take place at the stadium

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Clearly Adams would never the get same deal for public financing but if it was privately funded he would. This is why I think it’s all short sighted. Reliant cost $350M or so, The Texans are worth 4.7B the Titans 3.5B was getting the stadium paid for tax payers worth it? You would know more than me on this maybe they might block him or keep him from getting the land he wanted but seems like he and his family would have been better off if he had stayed and tried to build the stadium himself. Not that they are hurting i realize

The virtue signalers aren't going to like this attempt to glorify the contributions to climate change.

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I was never an Oilers fan and I'm also still mad about it.

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Same here