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Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
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So? If that’s the standard why bother playing the season?
What this take always ignores is that the season has already been played and Bama (among others not in the playoff) would still be favored over TCU. That means people have seen how they perform and they’re not just going by talent. Hell, even K St closed as a favorite on Saturday.
If you really want the best teams, the betting market is far superior to anything else. The problem is that people want to make it a matter of “most deserving” or some type of reward for having the most wins.
It’s all by design anyway, as controversy sells, and everyone plays along. For better or worse, the new format will put an end to all of this nonsense.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:14 pm to lsusa
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OSU should be in the playoffs.
Nah.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:15 pm to bayoucracka
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the new format will put an end to all of this nonsense.
Thank God. This mostly subjective shite has gotten stupider every year. Shifting targets, blue blood bias, just ridiculous it's gone on for this long.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:17 pm to bayoucracka
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The problem is that people want to make it a matter of “most deserving”
well, yeah, cause thats exactly what it should be
how's this for one? TCU could have won on Saturday and bama would still be favored over them. so, should bama make it over them when that's the case?
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:25 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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what it should be
I don’t necessarily disagree but that’s not how it’s defined.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:46 pm to bayoucracka
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What this take always ignores is that the season has already been played and Bama (among others not in the playoff) would still be favored over TCU
Bama has NOT been favored in something like 2-3 games since 2008 or something ridiculous like that. By that standard should we just put them in the playoffs regardless, every year? Wouldn’t they have been favored over Oregon in 2010?
I get the betting markets are better in evaluating overall strength of teams but even they are not flawless. They also take into account public perceptions.
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The problem is that people want to make it a matter of “most deserving” or some type of reward for having the most wins.
Most deserving is the best method because it’s objective. The “best” team is 100% subjective. Now that doesn’t make it wrong, I don’t think TCU is better than Bama, I also don’t think LSU is better than Bama, so should we have let Bama go to the SECCG to get the best teams?
TCU has a better resume than Alabama, it’s really hard to dispute that, especially if it was a blind resume not clouded by names and conference affiliation. They have a better win, their 2nd best win is Bama’s best, they beat everyone they played and have the best record in their conference they are more deserving and should be in.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:52 pm to bayoucracka
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For better or worse, the new format will put an end to all of this nonsense.
No it will just shift the arguments. There will be teams that go to a lose a CCG that get left out while someone sitting at home gets in. There will be a time when someone is in the CCG because they beat someone else only to watch that team go to the playoffs while they miss out, we’ve seen this in the old BCS days with teams not in the CCG getting at large BCS Bowls while losers of those bowls dropped. A minor injustice in those cases but when it’s playoff or bust….
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:52 pm to bayoucracka
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the new format will put an end to all of this nonsense.
No it won't. The argument will just shift to something else.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
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No it will just shift the arguments.
It will shift the arguments down the line, where the subjective ultimately belongs. In a field of 8 or 12, if a team losing their CCG is the thing that keeps them out, that's a far different debate than talking about top-5/top-10 ranked teams in the country (who suffer upsets even late in the year--see LSU/USC/etc.).
Debate 9-13 until the cows come home. I'm here for that. But let the big stuff be decided on the field in true playoff format. It's high time. Been high time.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 1:04 pm to lsusa
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When all the dusts settles, OSU should be in the playoffs.
OSU has the combination of being one of the best teams and having the resume to justify being in. Bama doesn't.
I do think its pretty wild that this isn't much of a debate at all if LSU fails that one 2 point conversion though. Or if Tenner misses a kick and loses in OT to Bama. Not that we should be in because of those things, but do you really look at a team that differently because of the result of one play unless you're just box score watching? Obviously as a fan you always want to win, but I don't look at this team any differently in terms of how good I think they are because of two plays.
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