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re: Ohio State AD says recruits are asking for 5K just to visit the school

Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:46 am to
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The kids want to know where they are on the pecking orders… because schools will pay that for some to visit but not others

And the big time teams have to pay that… because they absolutely positively cannot ever be perceived as “cheap”. That’s worse for recruiting than losing
It's amazing to me that people are so resistant to the truth. ANYTHING to have the money go ANYWHERE except the kids with the bodies bringing in the revenue.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:47 am to
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That's the dumbest/slimiest thing I've heard in a while.
Care to explain why it's so obviously dumb? All the supposed free marketers around here sure seem to hate free markets.
Posted by CISO
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:48 am to
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You can end that practice pretty quick.
Get schools on board to refuse those requests.



We've been down that road before and we all know some programs will continue to pay under the table, placing other programs on uneven playing field.
Posted by the4thgen
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:54 am to
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"A practice of asking a school for a fee to simply visit campus has emerged; asking for $5,000 just to visit has become common."


It has only become common because people have paid it. If you dont pay that out, there is no market for it. I think it is vastly different to have NIL deals set up for a kid if they decide to sign with a team versus paying a fee just to have him come on a visit. That seems really stupid to me.
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:07 am to
Free market baw
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:13 am to
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ost-benefit analysis usually fails to account for the goodwill you generate by liking what your customers like, like the local team.


Gordon’s commercials are a lot less annoying when maason smith is eating double teams before the break.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:41 am to
Why is no one mentioning that this is just outright illegal

This is not NIL (a lot of people still don't understand what NIL is). This is the Ohio State athletic director brazenly admitting that Ohio State is committing recruiting violations.

You cannot pay a recruit to visit campus under the guise of NIL. You cannot pay a recruit at all. A booster and/or third party can give a player NIL money once they arrive on campus. Of course people pay kids under the table regardless. They always have. But this is still illegal.

Ohio high schoolers cannot participate in NIL either, so this doesn't make any sense.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:04 am to
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Why is no one mentioning that this is just outright illegal This is not NIL (a lot of people still don't understand what NIL is). This is the Ohio State athletic director brazenly admitting that Ohio State is committing recruiting violations.


1. No one cares about recruiting violations

2. He isn’t saying that Ohio state does it, just that recruits are asking

We know they are doing it but he chose his words carefully
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:10 am to
Wow. Who could have ever foreseen NIL becoming such a problem?!
Posted by TexasTiger33
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:55 am to
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that would be a turnoff immediately if I was a recruiter
this
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:57 pm to
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Why is no one mentioning that this is just outright illegal


I asked in my first post. Paying a kid 5k just to visit campus has nothing to do with nil.

Next thing you know they will be paying kids to not talk about the illegal stuff they're doing

NIL is a disaster and you have prople preying on a group of people that are largely low income and not intelligent
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Wow. Who could have ever foreseen NIL becoming such a problem?!
What, exactly, would be the problem with this? For one thing, it's tiny money in the grand scheme. How many total recruits does one school bring on campus per season - 100 max?

But away from that - seriously, why does this trigger some of yall so bad?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:28 pm to
It is truly amazing how some yall have no concern with literally everything getting more expensive. No wonder you vote the way you do.

How about you give me a compelling reason why a recruits should be paid a fee on top of getting a free visit to a campus? An actual, logical reason rather than "why not."

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:38 pm to
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How about you give me a compelling reason why a recruits should be paid a fee on top of getting a free visit to a campus? An actual, logical reason rather than "why not."


Supply and demand
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:39 pm to
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Supply and demand



Guess we'll find out.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:41 pm to
Find out what?

Kids have been getting paid to go on visits for decades.

This isn’t a new thing
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:43 pm to
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Find out what?

Kids have been getting paid to go on visits for decades.

This isn’t a new thing




Guess we'll find out if a publicly known $5k appearance fee for some high school kid to visit a campus becomes a thing. Is that detailed enough for you?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:45 pm to
We won’t because as others have said this is illegal.

It will happen as it has for decades but unlikely you’ll see anyone copping to it.

We know it’s a thing because of this AD’s comments and the fact that several schools have been popped for it over the years.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:47 pm to
Must be nice to take the side that require no proof that it is happening as you claim.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:48 pm to
So is your argument that some recruits are not getting paid extra to visit these schools?
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