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re: official VINCE YOUNG is a GOD thread

Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:42 pm to
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What does that have to do with the awesome game VY had compared to the absolute chokejob that Schaub had (yet again)


I was not aware Schaub was also the Head Coach and DC.

If the Texans had VY today, they would have lost. Schaub had a bad INT that blew the game open but they were already behind. You, like most UT fans are too much of a VY fan boy to realize its about the team, not just one player. The Texans got up 17-0 and Kubiack starts coaching so conservative, Jim Mora Sr would call him a pussy. Not sure if you saw the Texans game today, but if so can you tell me how VY stops 2 horrendous PI calls?
Schaub is not the problem. the VY fanboys are the only one's that can't see that.

If VY is such a winner explain this:
01/06 @ SD L 6-17 16 29 55.2 138 4.8 0 1 3 9 53.5 2 12 6.0 0 --

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Schaub over VY right now?


IDK, but I'd take Fisher over Kubiak any time
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 6:44 pm
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:43 pm to
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VINCE YOUNG is a GOD


The Colts will bring him back down to earth next weekend
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61001 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:46 pm to
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In his last 9 starts he's 9 - 0 ?

Wow.


regular season starts going back to 2007, ignore the fact that Tennessee played 21 game between those starts or that they were 13-3 last year with Kerry Collins.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:46 pm to
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Check their respective ratings after this week and it's pretty damn close. Add in VY's running ability or even just threat to run wherein that is practically insignificant for Schaub.


Schaub has 19/9, better comp%, better yd/att....I don't see how these two are even in the same ballpark.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:48 pm to
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In his last 9 starts he's 9 - 0 ?

Wow.


QB wins are about even less relevant than starting pitcher wins when it comes to evaluating the player.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:49 pm to
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I'd take Fisher over Kubiak any time


Agree - it's a team sport and in football the HC matters more than in any other sport.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:51 pm to
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23-11


Fisher, defense - ignore the fact that he has more TOs than TDs, bad completion%, terrible yds/att, etc.
Posted by Roughneck
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 6:51 pm to
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If the Texans had VY today, they would have lost. Schaub had a bad INT that blew the game open but they were already behind. You, like most UT fans are too much of a VY fan boy to realize its about the team, not just one player. The Texans got up 17-0 and Kubiack starts coaching so conservative, Jim Mora Sr would call him a pussy. Not sure if you saw the Texans game today, but if so can you tell me how VY stops 2 horrendous PI calls?
Schaub is not the problem. the VY fanboys are the only one's that can't see that.

If VY is such a winner explain this:
01/06 @ SD L 6-17 16 29 55.2 138 4.8 0 1 3 9 53.5 2 12 6.0 0 --
The box score of a game over 3 1/2 years ago? Yeah, clearly relevant to the player he is today in which he had by far and away his best throwing game ever.

And if you want to bring up stats, none get more definitive than 0-6 to 5-6, the first team in NFL History to ever do that. Now is that all VY? Hell no! Anyone who would argue such a thing would be one of your "fanboys". But switching to VY has been the only major shift on that team this season and, since they did make that move, they're undefeated instead of winless. He's not the only reason they're winning but he is a big part of it.
Posted by 417longhorn
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2009
543 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:01 pm to
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Fisher, defense - ignore the fact that he has more TOs than TDs, bad completion%, terrible yds/att, etc.


How about the stats from his five starts THIS year:

83/127 (65% completion) for 1010 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT, QB rating: 96.9

And 154 rushing yards and a TD


Oh, and 5-0.
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 7:03 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61001 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:05 pm to
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switching to VY has been the only major shift on that team this season and, since they did make that move, they're undefeated instead of winless. He's not the only reason they're winning but he is a big part of it.


yep, switching QB's is why the Titans D went from avg 33 ppg to 18 or so.

Look, he is playing well, and it was the right thing to do for them to start him after going 0-6 just to see what they had since Collins at 37 is not the future. Looks like he has made strides and could be a good QB for them. That last drive today was a big test to see if he can pass when needed. But he is still winning games the D is keeping close. That would not happen as often in Houston, especially if they didn't have one of 3 good defensive players that they do have and as long as they have a coach that is a giant pussy.

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The box score of a game over 3 1/2 years ago?


3 1/2 years ago, we was in training camp as a rookie. The Date is 1/06/08 (the 2007 season). A game that took place AFTER his "streak" of wins began and his only playoff start to date.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61001 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:06 pm to
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How about the stats from his five starts THIS year:

83/127 (65% completion) for 1010 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT, QB rating: 96.9

And 154 rushing yards and a TD


These are QB stats and pretty good.
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Oh, and 5-0.


This is a team stat and I await an explanation from any Teasip/VY fan boy as to how VY has improve the Titans D from 33 ppg to 18 ppg?
Posted by Kige Ramsey
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:10 pm to
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VINCE YOUNG


Posted by 417longhorn
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2009
543 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:12 pm to
Yes. they have been team wins.

For the most part I agree with your take on VY and the Titans, and I will leave it at that since I remember that you get sick of the VY fanboys. And I am most definitely a fanboy.
Posted by Roughneck
Member since Feb 2005
8236 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:15 pm to
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This is a team stat and I await an explanation from any Teasip/VY fan boy as to how VY has improve the Titans D from 33 ppg to 18 ppg?
I'll crank one of those out as soon as you give me an explanation, that has nothing to do with VY, on why the Titans PPG has jumped from 14 PPG before VY to 29 PPG after VY.

Oh and, even using teasip as a passing taunt, makes it all the more appropriate that you either have an inverted Longhorn Logo by your name or just the flat out Aggie Symbol.
Posted by TEXASTIGER22
H-TOWN
Member since Feb 2007
11534 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:22 pm to
H Town Tiger and I have had this debate 2 or 3 times over the past few years. I would love Vince on the Texans
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:26 pm to
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How about the stats from his five starts THIS year:

83/127 (65% completion) for 1010 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT, QB rating: 96.9

And 154 rushing yards and a TD


Oh, and 5-0.


looks like cwill checked out
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56260 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 7:29 pm to
I am officially back on the VY bandwagon. At least he reps Houston.

Too bad he has field days against the mentally soft Texans.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61001 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 8:45 pm to
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I'll crank one of those out as soon as you give me an explanation, that has nothing to do with VY, on why the Titans PPG has jumped from 14 PPG before VY to 29 PPG after VY.


To start with the offense has jumped to 24.8 ppg after you take out the 2 ints TD's they had against Buffalo and the 1 v SF. Another part is because they are not getting pummeled like they did against Indy and NE, they have been able to give Johnson more carries.

Notice they won the last 2 games by scoring only 20 points in each. By contrast the first game against the Texans they scored 31 (9 less than they have scored in the last 2 games combined) and lost. This is no doubt because Vince was not starting.

Vince had a great game today, the first 4 he has been a good game manager. He has shown poise and good decision making that he really didn't before, especially after he melted down because he got booed for playing bad in the first game last year. It should seen obvious that riding the bench last year was beneficial.

To give him all the credit for the turn around of a team that started horribly, but was after all 13-3 last year, is bad enough, but to think that his magic powers of "winning" would transfer to another team, with coach, defense and running game all substantially worse than what Tennessee has is just mind blowing. Vince is in a good spot. In Houston he would not be winning at least not any more the Schaub.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61001 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 8:47 pm to
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I would love Vince on the Texans


great, then you and the other VY fanboys could wear #10 jersey's and blow him from the stands while the team lost as much as they do now since they don't have a good defense, coach or running game.
Posted by TEXASTIGER22
H-TOWN
Member since Feb 2007
11534 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:23 pm to
I would probably buy a jersey
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