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re: Official Tim Tebow Workout Thread (Scout grades on page 6)

Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:12 pm to
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55 Run 40 Arm 40 FLD 35 Hit 55 Power
For those that dont know, 50 is Major League average.

So above Major League average on 2/5
Just below on 2/5
and rough on 1/5


"But but if this attention whore joke can tryout, I can too"

-typical fat neckbeard MSB poster
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:12 pm to
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He instantly will be one of, if not the most, athletic player every time he steps on the field. In football, he was simply average when it came to size, strength, and speed. In baseball, he will be damn near the best at all of those categories


But he didn't wash out of the NFL because he was "simply average" in size, strength, and speed. And he won't be good at baseball just because he's one of the biggest, strongest, and fastest players on the field.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:13 pm to
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And he won't be good at baseball just because he's one of the biggest, strongest, and fastest players on the field.
No, he wont. But it will be a huge advantage in baseball for him
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:16 pm to
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For NFL standards, he was average when it came to skill position players. There was nothing awe inspiring about his size, strength, and speed in terms of other NFL players. In baseball, he is a 1%er


This is true.

But it's sort of weird how he has become sort of a joke in the public eye, and it feels like a million years ago when people thought he was superhuman in college...wonder what his legacy will be...seems like even his college career is being re-written as ...he was average by your comments.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:17 pm to
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Early consensus from scouts evaluating Tebow's baseball tools at work out: 55 Run 40 Arm 40 FLD 35 Hit 55 Power
Run = Above Average
Arm = Standard Deviation below average.
FLD = Standard Deviaiton below average.
Hit = Emergency Call-Up. .230 Batting average. 0.0 WAR
Power = Above Average. 29-22 HRs. 2.5 WAR
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:19 pm to
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No, he wont. But it will be a huge advantage in baseball for him


I think his current size will actually be a big hinderance. There's no way he can be flexible enough to move his hands and adjust his swing from a 95 mph fastball to a 87 mph slider running in on him. Not helping his throwing arm either. Aren't you a tennis player? Not a whole lotta big swole dudes bombing aces. Tim would do well to take up yoga and drop 25 pounds. And if somebody tells him that's what he has to do, I have no doubt he will. I'll be pulling for him.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:19 pm to
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For those that dont know, 50 is Major League average.

So above Major League average on 2/5
Just below on 2/5
and rough on 1/5


"But but if this attention whore joke can tryout, I can too"

-typical fat neckbeard MSB poster



So he's basically a poor man's version of Bubba Starling...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:19 pm to
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Run = Above Average
Arm = Standard Deviation below average.
FLD = Standard Deviaiton below average.
Hit = Emergency Call-Up. .230 Batting average. 0.0 WAR
Power = Above Average. 29-22 HRs. 2.5 WAR
Some people have so much Crow to eat. I wonder what ole Buck has to say now?
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:20 pm to
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There's no way he can be flexible enough to move his hands and adjust his swing from a 95 mph fastball to a 87 mph slider running in on him.
This is probably why he got such a poor hitting grade. Give him a few years in the minors and I think he could become serviceable hitting to compliment his power.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:21 pm to
If nobody knew who Tebow was, and he stepped on a field for a random tryout, he would easily turn scouts' heads just with his athleticism. He'll get every opportunity because of that and how his popularity will go over with a minor league team.

But reaching the Bigs is a long shot for ANY baseball player, and pretty much impossible for someone his age, who has taken so much time away from the game.
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:23 pm to
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Run = Above Average
Power = Above Average.
These two were almost givens though with his athleticism. There are a ton of people that have 2-3 tools, but it's the ability to hit that does so many players in.
It doesn't matter if you can hit the ball 700 ft if you have trouble with the curve.

They put poor throwers at first. They put poor fielders at DH.
But they put poor hitters on the street.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:24 pm to
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and pretty much impossible for someone his age, who has taken so much time away from the game.
He just needs one of them Cuban birth certificates.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:24 pm to
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If nobody knew who Tebow was, and he stepped on a field for a random tryout, he would easily turn scouts' heads just with his athleticism. He'll get every opportunity because of that and how his popularity will go over with a minor league team.

But reaching the Bigs is a long shot for ANY baseball player, and pretty much impossible for someone his age, who has taken so much time away from the game.
Couldnt agree more. If his name was Robert Yerling from Boise, ID, people would say he is insane not to give it a shot with the grade he got today and his athleticism.

Still has alot of odds against him though
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:25 pm to
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These two were almost givens though with his athleticism. There are a ton of people that have 2-3 tools, but it's the ability to hit that does so many players in.
Agreed. But those players give it a shot and die out in the Minor Leagues..... Which is what he should do
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:25 pm to
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Tim Tebow's 6 plate appearances against Chad Smith: 1-for-5 with a line-drive single to CF and walk. @MLBNetwork @MLB

Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:27 pm to
.200 is ok, but it depends on how it looked.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:27 pm to
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.200 is ok, but it depends on how it looked.
OBP of .333 which is more important though......

But how he looked is the most important correct
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:36 pm to
In a world where I had to suffer through watching Dan Uggla, Evan Gattis, BJ Upton, and Jordan Schafer all getting significant playing time, I don't see why so many write off Tebow. Can't be much worse than those guys.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:39 pm to
Just hit one right off the 365 sign against live pitching.......
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:40 pm to
Tebow just hit his second ball off the wall against live pitching..... This time to left field, so opposite field power
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