re: OFFICIAL PSU-Sandusky Thread -- NYT reporting JoPa on way out soon

Joe Must Geaux

He was still all there in 98 and 2002. Now at 84 his cognitive ability probably isn't what it used to be thus the reason he really shouldn't be doing a press conference on this mess without serious help.

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the thing about this whole thing that somewhat pisses me off if the irrational group mentality, and how mcqueery, paterno, etc were more concerned with protecting their group than stopping kids from getting molested

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Agree with this but I'm starting to believe the people concerned with "protecting the group" are much higher up the food chain then Joe Paterno. I really don't think Joe was the mastermind of this whole cover up. Something of this magnitude would have to be orchestrated by people much more powerful then Joe Paterno.

I really think PSU will attempt to make Joe Pa the fall guy for all of this. "Hey look we fired the face of PSU athletics; therefore, we are turning over a new leaf!"

We are just scratching the surface here. I really think if people keep digging they will find some EXTREMELY despicable things.... I can actually see Mcqueary, Joe Pa, etc.. being "convinced" to keep their mothes shut by some very powerful people or group of people! We saw the list of names on the board of Sandusky's foundation. It is a who's who of big time big shots...

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but paterno wanted to protect his butt buddy. mcqueery didn't do anything out of fear of angering joe pa or being a tattle tale and not having a job at PSU the next go around

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Not denying Joe Pa has fault. Just not sure if it was his ego that kept him around or orders from higher ups. Something just tells me that there is a lot more to this. Firing Joe Pa and the school president will not eradicate the problem.

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i think there are 2 different groups. the coaching and the administrators. the coaches did the bare minimum necessary under the law to protect sandusky. the admins engaged in a cover up (and are being busted for it).

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I agree. I just think the school administrators were grouped into group 1 and group 2 are the board of trustee level people. I just don't see this cover up ending at the school president.

i'm not even blaming paterno for his self interest

this is mainly on mcqueery and the stigma of being a tattle tale. that's essentially why this wasn't stopped years ago

the immediate solution was for mcqueery to beat the frick out of sandusky

the second solution was for mcqueery to immediately call the cops

he did neither, and i guarantee a lot of it was group mentality and the fear of being labelled a snitch

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Firing Joe Pa and the school president will not eradicate the problem.

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I just keep saying this. Everyone that knew or should have known about Sandusky's exploits should be fired. This will drag on for months and more horrifying details and inexplicable actions by people close to the situation will be uncovered.

Just a reminder....schools should really consider possible problems before building statues celebrating living coaches. It's asking for trouble.

If anyone wants to start a new Sandusky thread and keep the OP updated with news throughout the day, have at it.

I'll unsticky and anchor this one. Include a link in the new thread to this thread.

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I'd like to know more about how Sandusky was thought of amongst the football team and staff. Was he revered, respected, feared, or not even thought of? Had Joe Pa or anyone else mentioned to anyone on the staff the history surrounding the past accusations?

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well he was Joe Pa's right hand man for what, 30+ years? I can't speak to how others felt about him, but I would assume they felt highly about him.

After reading the grand jury findings, I was sick to my stomach. This guy fits every profile of a child molester. Bribes the kids with gifts, tailgating, PSU games, hell, he even promised a kid he could walk on at PSU. He is a sick frick.

The fact that the Grad assistant told Joe Pa about one of the shower incidents, then the next day Joe Pa told his bosses, who then turned it in to "horsing around" after the grad student clearly said it was sexual acts is the biggest part of this story IMO.

Yes, Joe Pa did his duty in telling the higher ups, but if I told my boss something like this happened and he changed the story to just "horsing around," I would take it into my own hands and go to the police. The fact that he and others just gave up is sickening.

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the Board will appoint a Special Committee, members of which are currently being identified, to undertake a full and complete investigation of the circumstances that gave rise to the Grand Jury Report. This Special Committee will be commissioned to determine what failures occurred, who is responsible and what measures are necessary to insure that this never happens at our University again and that those responsible are held fully accountable

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They had 15 years to investigate this. Some of hte same people responsible for the cover up in the first place are now deciding who is guilty and who needs to go. This is a farce. They are so deluded that they think ANYONE with a working brain is buying this.

A freaking State Attorney General is investigating this. Trust me, they will get to the bottom of everything. The entire leadership at PSU is a joke. Every second that goes by makes them look more foolish.

HIDING behind lame written statements. Spanier and Paterno, mum. McQueery essentially in hiding. COWARDS.

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Special Committee appointed by TPTB usually equals Whitewash Report.