re: ***OFFICIAL*** ESPN 30 for 30 "Catching Hell" Tonight 7/C

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You telling me you have Kerry Wood pitching in game 7 and yall weren't confident.

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We could've had the '27 Yankees come back from the dead and suit up as Cubs for game 7, and I wouldn't have been confident.

First of all, that Marlins team was a better team than the Cubs, IMO. So, I figured they had their chance to close it out and blew it. Once game 7 started, I remember being excited about it; then I remember Wood tying the game with a HR. But, it's amazing that I really have no recollection of what else happened in that game except for Paul Bako making the final out. It was literally the biggest baseball game of my life, and I can't remember shite about it because of what happened in game 6.

I wasn't a huge fan of the Len Bias doc, mainly because it was by a Boston guy who cared more about how it affected the Celtics and kind of ignored all of the fallout at U. of Maryland. He missed a lot of the story -- strangely enough, the Bias death destroyed the FOOTBALL program. Maryland went from a perennial top 20 program to, er, what they are now.

Also, the Terp basketball program went on probation almost right after the Bias death because Bob Wade was a dirty cheater.

But the filmmaker just had no interest in the University of Maryland and what Bias meant to our community. His death was devastating. It was like Superman died.

Anyway, I liked this doc. Could've lost about 30 minutes, but I liked how it focused more on the thesis that Chicago does not need to forgive Bartman but Chicago needs to be forgiven by Bartman. that he was the only guy with honor. The way the Cubs threw him under the bus was disgusting (Dusty Baker, Mark Prior, and Moises Alou all blamed the fan). the only Cubbie to come off well was that female security guard who went well above the call of duty.

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the only Cubbie to come off well was that female security guard who went well above the call of duty.

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Eric Karros acquitted himself pretty well, IMO.

That sales rep probably beats his wife and talks shite about it around the water cooler the next day.

What a fricking tool bag.

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Why do Cubs fans feel like they have to constantly prove that they are true Cubs fans by posting stupid stuff like this?

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How does me saying I had no confidence in my team winning mean that I'm trying to prove that I'm a real Cubs fan?

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You telling me you have Kerry Wood pitching in game 7 and yall weren't confident. Just wondering.

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i was.

and when Wood went deep i thought for sure we were going to win game 7. For sure.


Game 6 i had an even better feeling. Everything was going the cubs way. Prior was cruising. Then Bartman happened. Alou would have definitely caught that ball. I have never hated the guy, because the ball was at the end of the stand...but shite, who knows what would have happened had he caught it.

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why has their been like 45 minutes of red sox stuff?

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You obviously didn't understand the whole concept of the documentary. While the previews geared it as a film only talking about the Bartman incident, the documentary is designed to use the Buckner and Bartman incident to chronicle scapegoating in sports. Fans, especially Cubs and Red Sox fans, look for an excuse to why everything happened. It's not cause Alex Gonzalez botched a taylor made double play, it's cause Steve Bartman. It's not cause Red Sox pitchers couldn't get the job done, it's all because of Bill Buckner. I didn't expect this Doc to be the best of the 30 for 30 series and it wasn't, but it did a good job of what the director was trying to prove. I don't know about anybody else, but the entire time I watched this thing I felt worse and worse each time they showed Bartman. It's obvious he is a genuinely good guy.

Hate to be this guy, but I haven't seen it yet and I haven't read the thread. I wasn't able to watch tonight - how was it?

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This reaction seems way worse.

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Especially considering it wasn't in the "heat of the moment"

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this documentary has pretty much sucked

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of course it did, there is no story, much less a 2 hour one. The only possible interesting thing that could have been done was talking to Bartman, which how interesting would that have been really.